Does Lord Levicoff hang out on this site?

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Theodore Lamar Heiks
BA, History/Political Science, Western State College of Colorado, 1984
MBA, Entrepreneurship, City University of Seattle, 1992
MBA, Marketing, City University of Seattle, 1993

Hi Tedmeister -

No, haven't seen Dr. Steve around here - I'd like to, as I've enjoyed reading his posts in other forums.

The "usual suspects" - that august cohort of gurus who post in other forums as well as degree.net includes yourself, Lawrie Miller, Dennis Ruhl and VERY occasionally (and not for a while, it seems) Dr. John Bear. About a month ago, somebody referred an enquiry to Rev. Jimmy Clifton - was it you, maybe? I believe we were graced with a posting or two in reply from Rev. Jimmy himself, although he does not post regularly here. (Likely, he's too busy preaching, locksmithing and earning degrees!)

By the way, you're WAY too modest! Besides reading Dr. Bear's books, you've also earned two MBA's along the way, and at least one other degree, IIRC. Oh goodness, I don't HAVE to remember - just noticed you posted them in plain sight! Time for new bifocals! I've enjoyed your postings as Tedmeister, Theo the Educated Derelict, Theodorus Lamarus van Huygen and I believe, some as just Ted Heiks.

You are a veritable fount of good, accurate information and we're DARN lucky to have you aboard!

Johann

In Canada, a monarchy, every law is signed by the federal governor-general or the provincial lieutenants-governor on the queen's behalf as are regulations flowing from laws. These positions are appointed by the prime minister. The only significant discretionary power held by the Queen's representatives is the power to appoint and dismiss the prime minister or provincial premiers when the situation demands and the leader fails to resign. Rarely used.

For NA, ACICS ranks as tops in my mind. ACICS is accepted by many agencies, RA schools more then DETC. ACICS primarily focuses on traditional schools, but added within its scope to cover DL too. DL is still gaining ground but has not achieved 100% acceptance. That is why DETC was not approved by the USDE to provide Title IV.

[quote=JohnDoe;4241]Based on reading different posts at different forums, this is now my knowledge of the USA accreditation policy:

1. Regional accrediation. The Gold Standard.
This gets you in everywhere.
Schools and employers are all happy.

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2. DETC/CHEA accrediation. The Silver Standard.

This gets you in quite a lot of places, but not everywhere.
Most employers finds it ok, but some don´t.

CHEA is aprivate organization appointed by the USDE that is the umbrella that accrediting agencies are recognized. DETC is a NA that is recognized by CHEA. But Regionals ecognized by CHEA also.

3. State accredited degree

This is valid in the current state, but most probably of no practical use outside the state in which it has been validated.

NOT TRUE. State approved schools serve its purpose in the workplace. California Coast Univeristy only received its DETC accreditation in Jan 05. So for 30+ years CCU was graduating students to enter the workforce. Look at their long list of accepted employers who have accepted their degrees. http://www.calcoast.edu/recogn.php#Institutional

You most likely will have problem to attend further education at schools with DETC/CHEA and RA standard.

TRUE

Most employers outside the state do not like this education.

Depends

4. Legal unaccredited degree

Totally unaccredited degree, but still legal, so take it if you want it, because the school that is offering it has been given permit to do so.

TRUE

Will most likely not get you into any further education, and will most likely not get you employed anywhere.

NOT TRUE. many employers do not do due diligence. Some take the resume as truth & jusged by experience & professional demeanor. Some accept a copy of the degree, maybe some transcripts.

in california there are weird things going on like reverends being able to practise counseling and even here in texas if one is a reverend and can prove it via the ordaining church then the requirements for a licensed chemical dependency counselor are waived if they are part of a "faith based method for counseling those addicted to alcohol or addictive chemicals"
want to learn more about bogus credentials and loopholes that are legal? quackwatch.com
or specifically the parent website of credentialwatch.com by stephen barrett, M.D.

I would say its legal because there are only a handful of states that require pastoral counselors to be licensed. I know that in my state of NC, if a pastoral counselor is charging fees, then he or she has to become licensed. Non fee charging pastoral counselors do not have to be licensed.

There is a national board for certified pastoral counselors:
http://www.nbcpc.org/Webpage.asp?MID=201656

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Aren't we technically a Constitutional Monarchy?

That would probably basically say what you explained, but in two words

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Robin L. M. Cheung
B.Sc.Hons., Biology and Biotechnology, (Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada, 1999)
MBA (DeGroote School of Business, McMaster University, Hamilton, Canada, 2002)
PhD, Applied Management and Decision Sciences, (Walden University, 2011)
www.RobinCheung.Info

So what you're saying is that diploma mills carry a lot of weight and are academic heavyweights?

And that Ivy League schools fold under pressure?

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Robin L. M. Cheung
B.Sc.Hons., Biology and Biotechnology, (Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada, 1999)
MBA (DeGroote School of Business, McMaster University, Hamilton, Canada, 2002)
PhD, Applied Management and Decision Sciences, (Walden University, 2011)
www.RobinCheung.Info

I have to advise anyone considering that path that two MBA's will definitely not get you farther careerwise or academically than spending the time and effort to add relevant work experience to one MBA. And if you're thinking, "Ahh, but he had different majors," I would still point out that an MBA is not really meant to teach you new disciplines but rather train a problem-solving paradigm and serve as an exemplar; I'm pretty sure that it would be a cheaper and more productive choice for a Finance MBA grad to take on marketing projects at work than do a second one.

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Robin L. M. Cheung
B.Sc.Hons., Biology and Biotechnology, (Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada, 1999)
MBA (DeGroote School of Business, McMaster University, Hamilton, Canada, 2002)
PhD, Applied Management and Decision Sciences, (Walden University, 2011)
www.RobinCheung.Info