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Old 11-27-2007, 05:59 PM
ChrisEffinSmith ChrisEffinSmith is offline
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Default Fastest and easiest 60 college credit hours?

First, I apologize if I'm asking a stupid question that the search function or research would have answered. I've done a lot of searching and research on this site and elsewhere, but it's all kind've information soup at this point, and I'm hoping someone can help me out. I'm taking the NYS Troopers exam in February. Problem is, the NYS Troopers require 60 college credit hours (or 30 with a Certified Police Officer Training Course) "by time of appointment" - which I'm assuming means by the time they call you for the job, not by the exam date. I have like 2 credit hours to my name. They do not require a degree, or for the credits to be in any particular field. I need the fastest, easiest, (and cheapest if possible) way to accrue 60 credit hours "by time of appointment". Anybody?
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Old 11-27-2007, 07:26 PM
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60 credits is two academic years of full-time school, so I guess you're gonna be busy, friend! I'll tell you the best (probably the only) way to acquire that many credits in a far shorter time:

CLEP, DANTES etc. tests.

They're the ONLY honest answer for those in a hurry! For more info, see this site: www.bain4weeks.com It's 100% legit and Lawrie Miller, whose site it is, posts occasionally to this forum. It doesn't REALLY promise you a B.A. in 4 weeks, of course! It's the product of an accomplished man, who has been through the process of earning a degree by the quickest legitimate methods and who knows his way around the testing-out and credit-banking environments.

Besides this site, try www.degreediscussion.com. One of their forums is "Credit by Examination" and deals exclusively with earning credits via testing.

Hey, you can DO this! Good luck!

Johann

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Old 11-27-2007, 08:30 PM
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For credits: CLEP, DANTES, FEMA.

For degree: www.excelsior.edu
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:50 AM
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Default Have AS degree looking to Finish BS need help

Hi All,
This site is God sent, I have been searching for a while now to find the best way to finish my Bachelor degree in Business Administration, I live in Toronto Canada and I have an associate degree from a regionally accredited college in the US as I lived in NY before for years. I am a certified project management professional ‘PMP” with more than 10 years experience in the telecommunication industry, my question is what is the fastest and most cost effective way to finish the last 60 credits required for the BS degree, and what type of tests are available for higher level courses as a lot of the testing available are for introductory level courses. I almost registered at Aspen University, but thanks to this site I stopped and questioned if regional accreditation is the way to go, and I think I will go for that. Please feel free to comment as I need all the help I can get .

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Old 11-28-2007, 06:28 PM
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Default Couple ways...

Hi

As our moderator, ShotoJuku, frequently s***ests: www.excelsior.edu . He is an Excelsior alumnus himself, who has gone on to successfully complete a graduate degree (and is Ph.D. shopping, now.) He is one of many, many people I've heard speak highly of Excelsior - great and inexpensive way to complete a degree. As far as testing, goes - talk to them (Excelsior). They'll tell you what you need! I believe your PMP certification would be worth credits there. You should ask them!

I see you live in Toronto - I'm 50 miles away, in Hamilton. A Canadian source you MIGHT want to consider is Athabasca University www.athabascau.ca . They're RA as well as having proper Canadian creds - because it attracts U.S. students, so a degree from there is automatically good in both countries. I'm pretty sure they'd give you "time served" for your RA Associates. They have a prior learning recognition procedure, so you could get credits for your PMP and maybe some for your 10 years of telecom industry experience. They could give you an idea of how many credits - I have NO idea!

Athabasca is a great school. My son is enrolled there; he and others speak highly of it. At well over $200 per credit hour it isn't cheap. Nowhere near Excelsior's deal - but it's good -- maybe suits your learning style, who knows? With prior credits in hand it might be doable, financially - but that's also YOUR decision.

I won't go into any DETC options, because you specified RA. I hope this helps. I wish you every success!

Johann

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Old 11-29-2007, 12:54 AM
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Okay, so after a little more research (thanks for the direction!), I have a tentative game-plan. First, I'll start with as many FEMA courses that I can get credit for. Does someone know which ones are worth credit and which ones aren't? After the FEMA courses, I'll probably go for the General CLEP exams for the remaining 30ish. (I say "ish" because I have 4 or 5 credits at my former school). Now, I've read that Excelsior will not accept FEMA credits through TESC as of 11/1/07. While I don't think this affects me in my efforts to simply amass credit hours; if I were to attempt to use these credits towards a degree later on, would I be forced to pay $65 a piece through FCC for Excelsior to accept them? Would I just be better off doing everything (including an eventual degree) through TESC? Thanks in advance!
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Old 11-29-2007, 01:08 AM
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Default $65 apiece, AFAIK!

Hi -

I believe that usually, the FEMA courses only become "college credit" or "credit hours" once you've completed them AND registered them at FCC - cost $65 per course. I've seen this in writing as a requirement by RA schools - "pass the FEMA course, register it with FCC ($65) then we can accept it as a transfer credit." I'd LIKE to be wrong on that, but I don't think so. ShotoJuku, do you know for sure? It may be wise to check with FCC and what your future employer requires, re FEMA credits.

By the way, on the FEMA course list, they usually indicate the amount of credit each course is worth, once it's registered. Also, for degree purposes a school may place a limit on FEMA credits. I noticed, for instance, that University of North Texas had a six-credit limit on FEMA transfers - not that such a limit would affect you, if you were simply trying to piece together a specified number of credits in as little time as possible.

Johann

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Old 11-29-2007, 03:02 AM
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Maybe I'm confused. I was under the impression that TESC could turn them into official "credit hours" via something referenced as a "credit bank" for a nominal fee. I though my only difficulty would arise if I attempted to use them at Excelsior. Now if the ONLY way to receive college credit for them is to pay $65 a pop I may have to consider an alternate route.
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Old 11-30-2007, 09:05 PM
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Default Maybe so...I'm not sure, but it'll cost.

Hi Chris -

I looked at a lot of stuff on the boards, and now I'm confused too. Some people said the correct thing was to register FEMA courses for credit at FCC first ($65 per credit-hour) and THEN credit-bank them at TESC.

Others said no - you can go right ahead and credit-bank them at TESC, but you should do quite a few, because the fee was $400 regardless of the number of credit-hours you were banking. 15 credits worked out to be $28-and-change a pop, which is pretty cheap.

Maybe if you Google "FEMA credits" + "TESC" you'll be able to make more sense than I could. I tried TESC's page www.tesc.edu for advice but couldn't find anything appropriate. (That doesn't mean YOU won't ) A TESC link referenced in the board-postings no longer exists.

Let us know what you find!

Johann

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Old 11-30-2007, 10:28 PM
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Hi Chris -

I looked at a lot of stuff on the boards, and now I'm confused too. Some people said the correct thing was to register FEMA courses for credit at FCC first ($65 per credit-hour) and THEN credit-bank them at TESC.

Others said no - you can go right ahead and credit-bank them at TESC, but you should do quite a few, because the fee was $400 regardless of the number of credit-hours you were banking. 15 credits worked out to be $28-and-change a pop, which is pretty cheap.

Maybe if you Google "FEMA credits" + "TESC" you'll be able to make more sense than I could. I tried TESC's page www.tesc.edu for advice but couldn't find anything appropriate. (That doesn't mean YOU won't ) A TESC link referenced in the board-postings no longer exists.

Let us know what you find!

Johann
Just for clarification, you CAN bank credits at TESC, but Excelsior and COSC no longer accept FEMA based college credit through TESC Credit Bank. I spoke with Amy from FEMA ISP (the most knowledgeable woman of the credit transfer program) and to her knowledge only FCC and TESC will convert classes to credit without requiring enrollment.

Of course, this doesn't stop you from enrolling in a program at TESC. I was on the phone with them for quite a while today, looking at their Emergency Management Program, which the FEMA courses would fit best.

However, if you're still determined to find somewhere that will translate your FEMA courses into credit, I s***est you check out these colleges.

http://training.fema.gov/emiweb/edu/collegelist/

You might want to contact this gentleman, as he might be a good first point of contact

B. Wayne Blanchard, Ph.D., CEM
Higher Education Project Manager
Emergency Management Institute
National Emergency Training Center
FEMA/Department of Homeland Security
16825 S. Seton Avenue
Emmitsburg, Maryland 21727
wayne.blanchard@dhs.gov

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