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Old 05-15-2009, 07:29 PM
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Question UOP, Kaplan, Been burnt, looking another school......

Back in '05 I found UOP (University of Phoenix) which I THOUGHT was a good school until they misplaced 3,000 bucks of my money and could not tell me where it went YET they say I owe them. It went from my loan company to them and they claimed it got sent back and my loan company never received it. Needless to say, I was not able to get my transcripts and it was a waste of my time and money. I have seen SEVERAL law suits against them and they have been claimed as a degree mill REGARDLESS how great they may claim to be. With that much advertising, no wonder they are on the top of the online college list.

Well, a friend of mine was going to Kaplan University, so I decided to start back school there after taking some time off for personal reasons (idiot boyfriend issues at the time..lol) Well, initially, when I went back with the same degree plan I had at UOP, Bus Admin., They stated I would not owe any money out of pocket until the end of my degree or I could pay all along. Well, that lasted MAYBE 2 months and they started calling and I explained to them I could not pay but COULD may payments. They did not want to hear that, they wanted it ALL right then and NOW. After not being able to pay it all, I was 'kicked out' and was not able to continue my degree. Well, after a few months, I decided to change my degree plan to IT and start over. I was already making websites so why not do something I enjoy for a degree. I am currently going and have had no problem YET other then the entire time you can not talk to your advisor. they are NEVER available and can't answer emails. Even when you email several times.

Now, after thinking on this long and hard, I have realized that EVERYONE is going into the IT degree plan and the market has been flooded for years. I am a novice now in websites and even though it would LOOK better to have a degree under my belt, I can still do sites by word of mouth/my work just the same.

Now jumping to the OTHER side of the spectrum, I have ALWAYS wanted a degree in Philosophy and in the beginning before even started back to college, I wanted to do it but felt it wouldn't be a functional degree. YET, with all the job opportunities that is available with this degree, I already have my feet in. Also, with the direction I am going in my life, and personally, this is a degre that would EXTREMELY help. My question there is what is a GOOD NON DEGREE MILL SCHOOL that offers a Bachelors in Philosophy.

I appreciate any information and look forward to meeting interesting people here.

About me: I am 30, I have a newborn, and work full time. Main reasons I am looking online. I live in NC and close to ECU which offers on campus which I may HAVE to but don't want to.
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Old 05-16-2009, 01:10 PM
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Old 05-16-2009, 06:37 PM
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Why not look into distance education programs at the various schools within the University of North Carolina System?

University of North Carolina System distance learning homepage

UoP and Kaplan both have reputations for high costs and marginal academics.

Many employers with educational reimbursement plans won't even reimburse employees for tuition at those schools despite the schools' Regional Accreditation.
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Old 05-18-2009, 08:36 PM
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Why not look into distance education programs at the various schools within the University of North Carolina System?

University of North Carolina System distance learning homepage

UoP and Kaplan both have reputations for high costs and marginal academics.

Many employers with educational reimbursement plans won't even reimburse employees for tuition at those schools despite the schools' Regional Accreditation.
Hey Mort,

Thank you for responding. I have looked throughly through that online page with all 16 schools available with online classes in NC. They do not offer Philosophy except on campus. That is why I decided to venture out beyond state schools even though I would RATHER be in a state school due to cheaper tuition.

Yes, I am trying to get away from Kapalan if AT all possible once I find a decent school that isn't TOO high.

So far it's been www.excelsior.edu which I am looking into now thanks to Shoto

And http://www.apus.edu

Any opinions of either would be great.

I may be looking wrong as Philosophy instead of Liberal arts???
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Old 05-21-2009, 07:17 PM
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Hey Mort,

Thank you for responding. I have looked throughly through that online page with all 16 schools available with online classes in NC. They do not offer Philosophy except on campus. That is why I decided to venture out beyond state schools even though I would RATHER be in a state school due to cheaper tuition.

Yes, I am trying to get away from Kapalan if AT all possible once I find a decent school that isn't TOO high.

So far it's been www.excelsior.edu which I am looking into now thanks to Shoto

And http://www.apus.edu

Any opinions of either would be great.

I may be looking wrong as Philosophy instead of Liberal arts???
I have to agree with Mort here. I s***est you look at the Interdisciplinary Studies program or the Liberal Studies program that are available to you from UNCS online. You can modify the curriculum to suit your needs and the schools in NC are among to best in the country.
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Old 05-21-2009, 07:34 PM
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I suppose I am looking in the wrong area straight under Philosophy vs another level.

So, I ideally need to look under Liberal studies and/or interdisciplinary? And it should have concentrations in philosophy correct?

I'm sorry to sound ignorant, but I'm trying to figure this out considering what I have BEEN taking is what it is. BUSINESS & IT...lol
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Old 05-21-2009, 07:59 PM
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24.0102 Degree Program Interdisciplinary Studies
Baccalaureate B WSSU
State-Wide
24.0101 Certificate Program Post Baccalaureate Certificate in Global Studies
Post-Baccalaureate Certificate PB UNCG
State-Wide
24.0101 Degree Program Liberal Studies
Master's MA UNCG
State-Wide
24.0101 Degree Program Liberal Studies
Baccalaureate BA UNCG
State-Wide
24.0199 Degree Program General Studies and Humanities
Baccalaureate BA NCSU
State-Wide
24.0199 Degree Program Leadership in the Public Sector
Baccalaureate BA NCSU
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UNC Greensboro: Bachelor of arts in Liberal Studies HUMANITIES concentration
The humanities are academic disciplines which study the human condition, using methods that are primarily analytic, critical, or speculative, as distinguished from the mainly empirical approaches of the natural and social sciences.
Examples of the disciplines related to humanities are ancient and modern languages, literature, history, philosophy, religion, visual and performing arts(including music). Additional subjects sometimes included in the humanities are anthropology, area studies, Communication studies and cultural studies, although these are often regarded as social sciences. Scholars working in the humanities are sometimes described as "humanists". However, that term also describes the philosophical position of humanism, which some "antihumanist" scholars in the humanities reject.

Winston Salem University: Bachelor of Interdisciplinary Studies, Concentration in Integrative Studies
Integrative Studies

This Internet-based concentration of 36 semester hours offers the learner an opportunity to find the intersection between disciplines that integrate earlier studies with the changing economy and career demands that s/he wishes to satisfy and is an alternative for students who need or seek a broader educational experience. This program enhances or cultivates communication, critical thinking and creative problem solving skills; knowledge of one’s own and other cultures; exploration of societal issues; and the ability to use cross-disciplinary and interdisciplinary approaches to learning and scholarship through historical, regional, thematic, or problem-focused study.

NS State’s idea of Liberal Arts is Bachelor of Arts Online Degree Completion Program: Leadership in the Public Sector
Now my question is which concentration would fit. I would rather have a complete concentration of philosophy rather than a vast like Humanities but I may not have a choice for a NC school.
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Old 06-05-2009, 06:07 PM
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Thumbs up Try UNC-Wilmington for BA in Philosophy

If you would like to earn a BA in Philosophy I would highly recommend the University of North Carolina at Wilmington. My son received a BA in Philosophy with a minor in Religion from UNC-W. He enjoyed his academic experience there very much. I'm not sure if they offer online courses, but you can certainly check into it. ECU may offer the same, but you would have to check into it. ECU is also an excellent school. I have friends who have graduated from various programs there and have been quite successful career-wise.

I wish you all the best in your pursuit of a gratifying and worthwhile college experience.

The original reason for my reading your post is that you mentioned your experience with University of Phoenix and Kaplan University. I just withdrew earlier this week or I should say I am trying to withdraw from Kaplan University.

I had taken an early retirement and was looking to enter a new career path. I started exploring options at my local community college as well as online education opportunities. I made the mistake of filling out one of the surveys asking what type of career or trade you are interested in and giving my contact information. The phone calls started rolling in. I was successfully manipulated into entering Kaplan's paralegal studies degree program by one of their excellent sales and marketing staff disguised as an admissions officer. I'm not a naive person. I sat down with my husband and discussed both the time and financial commitment before agreeing to enroll. In the end my desire to go back to school and the attractiveness of being able to get my degree online overrode my usual good judgment. I only completed two courses, which an average 10th grader could have gotten an A in. Neither class was particularly challenging. I've lost $3,353.00 but that's not as much as I would have lost had I gotten in deeper.

To all who read these posts -- BEWARE of Kaplan and schools like them. They are for-profit businesses, not true institutions of higher learning. Their degrees are not worth the paper they are printed on. They are owned by the Washington Post, which should have been a HUGE red flag to me at the time, but didn't quite register as it was touted as being something special during the recruitment spiel.
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