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Old 02-20-2007, 04:21 PM
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Default Athabasca University

All of my distance learning so far has been through Athabasca University. It's a Canadian school, fully accredited and modeled after Open University in the UK. Courses are asynchronous, a big plus in my opinion and reasonably priced for those living in Canada. Compared to my residential school experience I found that not having access to previous years' exams and homework assignments raises the quality of the program and ensures that students who just want to work hard can be recognized for their efforts.
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Old 03-15-2007, 01:44 PM
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Athabasca is expensively priced for any Canadian

Fees are $661 per 3 credit course

The University of Manitoba offers online course and degrees
at approx. $345 per 3 credit course

University of Calgary $379-$439

I personally haven't seen a more expensive school than Athabasca, unless you go to the US of course.
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Old 03-15-2007, 02:03 PM
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Is the price in Canadian Dollars? if so it's not that expensive it's 26,000 CAD for a bachelor degree. around 22,000 USD.

I am not from Canada but the price is reasonable.
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Old 03-16-2007, 09:13 PM
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Default Uh-huh, good school, expensive for Canada, not US.

Hi -

McMaster University - in my home town of Hamilton Ontario (Canada) charges about $462 Canadian in tuition for a 3-unit Arts or Science course, so yes, Athabasca is more expensive.

They're both fine schools (I've gone to one, my son to both) and I think the premium you pay to Athabasca comes from:

(a) The convenience factor - you work on your own schedule and don't have to show up in a classroom every Wednesday night after work, regardless of the snow - OR pay more for on-campus parking than you do for tuition! (All right, that's a slight exaggeration, but it will add well over $100 to that 3-unit course!)

Working on their own schedule is the only way many part-time students can complete their courses - and one of the best places to do it is Athabasca.

(b) Athabasca also attracts U.S. students - they have American Regional Accreditation. The fees look very attractive to U.S students - not bad at all, when translated into U.S. dollars!

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Old 03-18-2007, 10:38 PM
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Default Oh yeah - I forgot! You may actually SAVE money!

Hi -

In many cases, a student can save a LOT of money by going to Athabasca, even if their per-unit tuition is higher than a local school. An area in which Athabasca EXCELS is making sure Canadian students get proper credit for a Community College diploma, if they hold one.

In the U.S. it's very simple - two years of Community College = Associate Degree, pass "go" and proceed to Year 3 of a 4-year program.

In many parts of Canada (including Ontario, where I live) it's not that simple! Around here, each University administration makes up its own mind in every individual case as to what credit it will allow for a Community College diploma. And in many, many cases, it's not very much!

A local University was willing to give one Community College grad I know (with good marks) credit for TWO COURSES. Athabasca was willing to credit him with two full YEARS.

Guess where he enrolled? (He saved thousands of dollars in tuition while receiving a fine education.) Yes, those professors at Athabasca can teach! Their administration team could teach other Canadian Universities a thing or two, as well!

Johann
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Old 03-28-2007, 03:01 PM
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Is the price in Canadian Dollars? if so it's not that expensive it's 26,000 CAD for a bachelor degree. around 22,000 USD.

I am not from Canada but the price is reasonable.
$661 Canadian is extremely expensive for an education in Canada

If we are a resident in the province in which we study, we pay approx $280-300 per course (exam fees included)

And as mentionned before University of Manitoba has online fees of $345 and Calgary university $379-$439.

Our education in Canada is a lot less expensive than the US our fees are approx $9000+ for a degree.

Perhaps Athabasca is marketing for US students. approx $19,800 plus exam fees (if you're a Canadian)

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Old 03-28-2007, 03:08 PM
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Hi -

(a) The convenience factor - you work on your own schedule and don't have to show up in a classroom every Wednesday night after work, regardless of the snow - OR pay more for on-campus parking than you do for tuition! (All right, that's a slight exaggeration, but it will add well over $100 to that 3-unit course!)

Working on their own schedule is the only way many part-time students can complete their courses - and one of the best places to do it is Athabasca.

Athabasca is not the only online school in Canada
In fact there are many more, and much more well priced.

And it is interesting, that where I am from, the government has not approved Athabasca for student loans.
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Old 03-28-2007, 03:21 PM
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Hi -

In many cases, a student can save a LOT of money by going to Athabasca, even if their per-unit tuition is higher than a local school. An area in which Athabasca EXCELS is making sure Canadian students get proper credit for a Community College diploma, if they hold one.
Well, so far it has cost me a lot of money.

First off, if you want your transfer credits assessed, you have to pay a $200 fee. I know of no other university that does this.

Secondly to have your credits assess, you also need to be enrolled in a program, and have an application completed, an extra $65. Then they try and convince you that it will take 3 months to have your credits assessed, so that your better off starting your classes now -- which of course I thought it would be better to wait.

Of course the diplomas were not accepted, even though they were from an accredited school, but they were not credit courses.

Then the college courses I did have were not accepted. First response courses were not accredited, since they have government approval, I was stunned, second response 'they're just not accepted'.

Now I should pay for PLAR (another $200 fee) to see if it will be accepted, of course it is better to try to challenge courses first (more $$$). Of course if you can't pass the challenge, you can still apply for PLAR (of course it is better to take the PLAR course first -- more $$$$$ )


I don't know, but I am feeling rather shammed!! I think, applying to several different Universities is an excellent idea; e.g. The University of Waterloo in Ontario, has some excellent online programs.
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Old 03-30-2007, 08:40 PM
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Hi -

I'm glad to hear University education costs less in some Canadian provinces than it does in Ontario, where I live. As I said before, a 3-unit course is around $460-odd locally, which I think is a fair reflection of the provincial average.

I'm sorry to say that a fee to have transfer credits assessed doesn't sound that unusual to me. I know my local university charges $65 PER COURSE on successful transfer. (Even on credits earned THERE and transferred from one program to another!)

Academic quality is generally good in this country, but my own experience proves that administrative/financial chicanery and sharp practice bordering on outright banditry afflict students in Canadian universities, as they do in other countries. I think it's done to us in the name of survival, a strategy made necessary here by chronic under-funding and institutional money-wasting.

I don't expect Waterloo (fine school!) or any of the other Canadian universities with on-line programs will do credit transfer for free, either!

I sympathize with you over your disappointing experience with college credits not being accepted. I do not know personally of any other Athabasca applicant who's had this problem, when seeking transfer credit for a program completed at a recognized, provincially-chartered Canadian community college. Can you tell me:

(1) Were you hoping for transfer credit for a completed diploma program or partial credits?

(1) Were your studies at a provincially-chartered Community College - or a private "Career College," as they are known in Canada - or done overseas? If they were from a recognized, provincially-chartered college, I can't see why there would be a problem.

Yes, there are other Canadian Universities providing on-line education and I don't think there's a bad school in the bunch! However, I still say Athabasca has its advantages, including not being tethered to a September or January start and an iron-clad schedule.

I guess one school won't suit everybody, but I still think highly of Athabasca. If you find a school like University of Manitoba or Waterloo (Ontario) suits (and treats) you better - then more power to you, my friend - go for it! They're ALL great places to learn!

Wherever you go, I wish you every success!

Johann

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Old 04-02-2007, 06:26 PM
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I think it's done to us in the name of survival, a strategy made necessary here by chronic under-funding and institutional money-wasting.
Yep, agree with you there!

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I don't expect Waterloo (fine school!) or any of the other Canadian universities with on-line programs will do credit transfer for free, either!
Waterloo did not charge me extra fees, neither does Manitoba...

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(1) Were your studies at a provincially-chartered Community College - or a private "Career College," as they are known in Canada - or done overseas? If they were from a recognized, provincially-chartered college, I can't see why there would be a problem.
Courses were provincially chartered; same courses are offered in other government qualified (non-private) Colleges.

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Wherever you go, I wish you every success!
Thanks!

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