Newport International University

[jova]

I am looking for information on Newport International University. Thou it announces itself as leagally licensed, once you read its web page it states that neither The Department of Education nor the Wyoming State Board of Education has accredited or endorsed any course of study being offered by Newport International University. I called their office locally (South America) and they talk about a distance program and real time to invest, along with tuition that is not cheap.
Does any one know anything about this university? Is it just a degree mill? does it have any knd of accreditation?
Really appreciate any light on this.

Worried South American

[LilOne1989]

I would pass on any school that is not endorsed. You are probably looking at a scam and would be better off looking someplace else.

[Homer]

One of the ways I tell my students in college (2-year community college) before they start looking to transfer, is to always double check their accreditation and ensure it is one of the regional accrediting bodies. Another way to double check a college is to do a mapquest check on its mailing address.

ANY college that has a UPS mailbox or other mailbox store as a mailing address is suspect. I have also found several that have office spaces in industrial parks and nothing else.

If it sounds to good to be true, it probably is.

[LyricB]

I'm surprised that a place which isn't legit would charge such high tuition...you would think that one of the ways of luring potential students would be with low tuition.

[johann]

It's often less work for a bad school to lure 10 students at $10,000 apiece than to lure 200 students at $500 a head. It's still $100,000 any way you slice it. That's one reason some mills charge high tuition.

Another "marketing" reason - if the price is high, some people will be CONvinced (with a capital "CON") that the program must actually be worth something, when it isn't. A low price is often equated with a low value, and vice-versa.

The bogus schools also rely on the fact that quite a few seekers of their degrees are well-heeled. They (a) can afford a fat fee and (b) will take a loss rather than the embarrassment of a complaint that 'goes public' if they later become dissatisfied.

The price of bogus schools covers a great range, depending on their greed, marketing strategy and little else. As always, Caveat emptor!

Johann

[Homer]

One thing I do is to show my students one of these schools if they want to transfer from our community college to a 4 year college a typical diploma mill's actual location. I get the address, use Mapquest or Google Map and punch it up on the screen. Usually, it is a UPS Store or other such mailbox store that comes up. I tell my students, with tongue planted firmly in cheek, that this is "the admissions and records office."

[tony_ramos]

I am looking for information on Newport International University. Thou it announces itself as leagally licensed, once you read its web page it states that neither The Department of Education nor the Wyoming State Board of Education has accredited or endorsed any course of study being offered by Newport International University. I called their office locally (South America) and they talk about a distance program and real time to invest, along with tuition that is not cheap.
Does any one know anything about this university? Is it just a degree mill? does it have any knd of accreditation?
Really appreciate any light on this.

Worried South American

Is this similar to Newport University, USA?

[johann]

Hi -

This is a classic - claims to operate in SO many countries. If they have a physical presence in Wyoming (I'm not sure they do) they're gonna have to leave it soon. Wyoming State law says get accredited or MOVE.

This school is, as far as I know, not accredited or properly chartered by ANY government, yet they claim to have "learning centres" everywhere! This is almost (not quite) funny!

Here are some of their websites I know of, for your entertainment:

www.niu-edu.us
www.niu.org.uk
www.niu.com.hk

By the way, their British er..."school" is committing an OFFENSE in the U.K. if it confers a degree, as it is not DFES (Government) recognized to grant degrees. Maybe they get around that by sending British um..."grads" a degree from their Hong Kong or U.S. schools, that are probably in the SAME OFFICE! I've seen this general type of sleaziness done by other bad outfits in the U.K.

QUICK UPDATE: I was right. Just read their UK page. What you get from the UK school is NOT a UK degree. They SAY SO!! What a British student would get is a WORTHLESS, unaccredited degree from their Wyoming school!! And that school will soon have to move - maybe to Mississippi or Alabama, as all Wyoming schools have a limited time to get accredited or move OUT of Wyoming!

Tony, it always amazes me how you manage to come up with SO MANY "rogue" schools - in all senses of the word. It must be quite a hobby! Oh - excuse me - I guess Jova came up with this particular turkey! You were just asking if it was similar to Newport U.S. Yep - part and parcel! See the websites!

Well, OK, I guess. No harm in it, just as long as neither of you guys sends money to these schools!

Cheers :-)

Johann

[Ahmed]

Hi Guys

Their South African "school" is not accredited either, maybe they like being unaccredited, it saves them money and time.

And they still get students, wonder how they do it? with such high fees

[johann]

Hi Tony -

You've established two different threads - Newport and Newport International, so I guess you've already discovered the answer to your question:

Newport International University

Completely unaccredited school, no legitimate approval of any kind that I can find - operates in many countries, gives many overseas students worthless (for employment etc.) Wyoming-based degrees. If it still has a home in Wyoming, it's soon gonna have to LEAVE - that's the law for all unaccredited schools in that State.

Do not walk...RUN!

Newport University

Different school. Legal but unaccredited - has California State approval.
Those who complete the law program have California Bar Association approval to write the State bar exam. The other degrees have the same limited utility (mostly regarding use for employment or transfer credit) that applies to any unaccredited program. It is expensive for an unaccredited school. Lower-cost distance RA runs about the same (e.g. Peru State - Nebraska, L.S.U. correspondence). Many VERY good DETC schools offer distance education for around the same price - e.g. Andrew Jackson University.

You don't have to RUN, but you may want to walk!

Cheers :-)

Johann

[earthquake]

Somewhat related... can someone explain the doctoral system in the UK. By this I mean the various degrees (PHD, D.Litt, DSc etc., the methodology for attainment, length of time involved and utility in US. My son is looking into graduate education in England, I find it very confusing, to say the least.

[johann]

Hi, Earthquake!

I'm not qualified to answer your question fully (or maybe at all :-) ), but I think you'll find these references to be of some help in explaining the British (and other) doctoral systems. These articles reference and give information on quite a few British (and other) Doctoral programs besides those you cited and answer most of the questions (length of time to attain, etc.) that you asked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Letters
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Science
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Philosophy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctorate

Cheers :-)

Johann