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Hi Every Body ,
I need a little help here :(
I am searching for an Accredit online Associate degree in computer Networks
But i don't want an expensive on Because I'm kind of self independent ;)
waiting for your suggestions soon .......:roll: :roll:
johann
09-27-2008, 08:12 PM
Hi
This page is the best answer I can think of:
http://www.pennfostercollege.edu/cat-technology.html
Cheers :-)
Johann
thank you johann for your replay
Their prices are good for me but when i finish Associate can i achieve Bachelor at any university after that ??
Semester One: $980.00 ( they are 4 semesters , right ? )
thanks again for your help but do you know a university give associate in computer networks at the same price ??:?
forgive me i am new to the world of online education :?
johann
09-28-2008, 10:45 PM
Hi
Yes, you can take that associate's and continue for your Bachelor's. You should get credit for the entire degree at another DETC school. Most Penn Foster courses are ACE-reviewed which means they're good for transfer credit at a lot of RA schools. You're right - that's the price, and there's no better deal for the money I know of.
Ashworth University has both an Associate's in IT and a diploma (not degree) in Networking. The diploma costs just under $1000. Here are the details.
http://www.ashworthuniversity.edu/programs/information-technology/ct/outline.html
Unlike Penn Foster, Ashworth also has Bachelor's (4 year degrees). The cost is around the same per semester as Penn Foster and a Bachelor's is 8 semesters - should be 4 if you already have the Associate's. Poke around the Ashworth site and you can look at the Degree offerings. They're DETC accredited, just as PFC is.
Penn Foster and Ashworth are equal in accreditation. Ashworth's plus is that it offers both associate's and bachelor's degrees. On the minus side, I've heard that Ashworth students experience a considerable number of customer service problems (slow shipments, accounting foulups, admin. errors). Never heard this from Penn Foster students!
There's another VERY GOOD school www.uat.edu and you can earn a degree in Network Engineering or Network Security here. It's ACICS-accredited, also a candidate for Regional Accreditation and comparatively expensive - out of Ashworth and PFC cost leagues, certainly. But a GREAT school and well worth looking at... :)
Johann
Thank you very much johann for your support it sounds great about Penn foster
But i learned that at the end of the semester someone called "Proctor" will supervise me at the exam and it can be my boss or .........
But what if don't have that proctor ?????
Do have any idea what can i do then ?????
:? :? :?
PS : I am not living in USA
and about www.uat.edu they are very good but expensive ;)
waiting for your replay ....
i wish you can get me Associate in Networks at the same price :cry: :cry:
johann
09-29-2008, 10:29 PM
Hi -
No problem, Ne0! A proctor can be just about anybody in a responsible occupation that you're not related to. Penn Foster can guide you in selecting one. Often, other local private schools pick up a small fee for proctoring this type of exam. Years ago, I wrote some exams for ICS (the predecessor company of Penn Foster) at a local private business school.
Penn Foster wants to help their students. Whoops! It's beginning to sound like I work for them or something! Not so -- I have no connection to them; I just happen to know of their reputation -- great school for the money!
And sorry - I have no control over the prices at UAT or anywhere else... I'll keep my eye out for a low-cost Associate's in Networks. Something you could do for yourself is post your requirement over at www.degreeinfo.com
The reason I suggest those guys is because they have a specific forum for I.T. degrees and the people who post in that area would know 'way more about Network education than I ever will!
Cheers! :-)
Johann
thanks Johann for your help
But can i continue to Bachelor degree after associate of penn foster at any university because i learned that the course is not ACE reviewed
johann
09-30-2008, 11:11 PM
Hi Ne0
Individual courses, not degree programs, are ACE-reviewed. My understanding is that practically ALL Penn Foster's degree-component courses are ACE-reviewed. Check with them. They will tell you EXACTLY how many of the 60 units are ACE-reviewed courses -- and I'm thinking it's well over 50.
That means you should get AT LEAST course-by-course credit for those, if an RA school is admitting you. I've read of people commonly getting 50+ units of their 60-unit PFC Associate degrees accepted for transfer credit.
If you choose to complete your Bachelor's at a DETC school, you should usually have NO PROBLEM getting the entire degree accepted, as Penn Foster is also DETC-accredited.
Johann
Hi Ne0
Individual courses, not degree programs, are ACE-reviewed. My understanding is that practically ALL Penn Foster's degree-component courses are ACE-reviewed. Check with them. They will tell you EXACTLY how many of the 60 units are ACE-reviewed courses -- and I'm thinking it's well over 50.
That means you should get AT LEAST course-by-course credit for those, if an RA school is admitting you. I've read of people commonly getting 50+ units of their 60-unit PFC Associate degrees accepted for transfer credit.
If you choose to complete your Bachelor's at a DETC school, you should usually have NO PROBLEM getting the entire degree accepted, as Penn Foster is also DETC-accredited.
Johann
do you have another option for me all i want is
a direct route to AS in a good price with the possibility to continue to Bachelor Later !!!!!
johann
10-02-2008, 11:37 PM
Hi
Go have a look at http://www.cie-wc.edu/
These are good people.
Accredited (DETC)
$25 starts any course.
Interest-free financing.
Federal student aid if you qualify.
You can get an Associate's here.
You can continue and get a Bachelor's here...and no, they're not paying me to say so!
Cheers :-)
Johann
Hi
Go have a look at http://www.cie-wc.edu/
These are good people.
Accredited (DETC)
$25 starts any course.
Interest-free financing.
Federal student aid if you qualify.
You can get an Associate's here.
You can continue and get a Bachelor's here...and no, they're not paying me to say so!
Cheers :-)
Johann
Thank you very much Johann for your replay
that is a good course really
But what is the difference between University and Institute ?
Because in my Country Institute = poor Education & low Degrees ;)
can you give me University with the same Price & Material ? :D :D
johann
10-03-2008, 11:45 PM
Hi
I'm trying as hard as I can to direct you to the BEST SCHOOLS for your ambitions and your budget. I didn't realize a NAME was so all-fired important. (To me, it still ISN'T.) I can't help or subscribe to local prejudices - I'm too preoccupied with my own! :-) I just try to give people good school advice.
CIE is an "Institute" because it took that name originally, MANY years ago, before it offered degree courses. It became well-known as a good school and MUCH later, obtained DETC accreditation and offered degree programs. It was ALWAYS a good school. The major difference over time is that it is now accredited to offer degrees.
Some people may recommend the "Big 3" (all good, with regional accreditation - the highest level.) These schools are indeed reasonably-priced (but maybe a tad higher than we've been talking) - www.excelsior.edu www.tesc.edu www.charteroak.edu. I say otherwise -solely because you are overseas. Getting a reasonably-priced degree from any of these three schools means a lot of "testing out" and I don't think you will find CLEP or similar test facilities where you live. If you know something I don't - then you might want to consider them.
About the only properly-accredited North American distance school I know of, that's called a "University," readily available to you (overseas) and that's in your price range is this one, previously recommended, with one caveat:
www.ashworthuniversity.edu
As I said, it's around the same price as Penn Foster, but I would suggest you deal with CIE instead. Nothing wrong with Ashworth's instruction or degrees but I've heard from quite a few people that the customer service is often poor - slow shipments, accounting foulups, difficulty getting response over the phone etc.
If it's important to you, you should know that if you choose CIE, your Associate degree will read "Cleveland Institute," but your Bachelor's degree will say "World College" which is their Bachelor's degree-granting affiliate. Does that help any? And I just remembered Penn Foster may be out of the picture for you -- I've heard that Information Technology is the ONE degree they do not teach to overseas students.
Johann
Hi
I'm trying as hard as I can to direct you to the BEST SCHOOLS for your ambitions and your budget. I didn't realize a NAME was so all-fired important. (To me, it still ISN'T.) I can't help or subscribe to local prejudices - I'm too preoccupied with my own! :-) I just try to give people good school advice.
CIE is an "Institute" because it took that name originally, MANY years ago, before it offered degree courses. It became well-known as a good school and MUCH later, obtained DETC accreditation and offered degree programs. It was ALWAYS a good school. The major difference over time is that it is now accredited to offer degrees.
Some people may recommend the "Big 3" (all good, with regional accreditation - the highest level.) These schools are indeed reasonably-priced (but maybe a tad higher than we've been talking) - www.excelsior.edu www.tesc.edu www.charteroak.edu. I say otherwise -solely because you are overseas. Getting a reasonably-priced degree from any of these three schools means a lot of "testing out" and I don't think you will find CLEP or similar test facilities where you live. If you know something I don't - then you might want to consider them.
About the only properly-accredited North American distance school I know of, that's called a "University," readily available to you (overseas) and that's in your price range is this one, previously recommended, with one caveat:
www.ashworthuniversity.edu
As I said, it's around the same price as Penn Foster, but I would suggest you deal with CIE instead. Nothing wrong with Ashworth's instruction or degrees but I've heard from quite a few people that the customer service is often poor - slow shipments, accounting foulups, difficulty getting response over the phone etc.
If it's important to you, you should know that if you choose CIE, your Associate degree will read "Cleveland Institute," but your Bachelor's degree will say "World College" which is their Bachelor's degree-granting affiliate. Does that help any? And I just remembered Penn Foster may be out of the picture for you -- I've heard that Information Technology is the ONE degree they do not teach to overseas students.
Johann
Thank you very much Johann for you help and i appreciate it well.
i was lost without your instructions coz like i told you before that i am new to that world so i wanaa make sure that after taking the degree i will not throw it away because i had a similar experience and i payed a lot of many and the most valuable i waste time, and of course NAME doesn't matter but the degree is the most important .
so if i take As from Cleveland Institute of Electronics can i continue to
Bachelor degree at any university ????
thanks again for your help and waiting for your replay.
johann
10-04-2008, 01:09 AM
Hi
Nobody can guarantee you'll get into "any" school. However, I figure you SHOULD be able to go straight into the last half of a Bachelor's program in IT at most other Nationally Accredited schools - DETC ACICS ACCST etc. No harm in an e-mail to schools you think you'd like to attend later - see what their policy is on the CIE degrees.
At Regionally accredited schools your mileage may vary. The CIE Associate degree is an "applied" degree (A.A.S.) so you may well get considerably less than two full years - individual schools can make their own rules. If the RA school IS admitting you, you will probably get course-by-course credit for relevant prior courses that were ACE-reviewed. I don't know right at this moment (or any other time :) ) how many that applies to in the CIE curriculum. I suggest you ask them how many of the Associate courses are ACE-reviewed.
Comments or cost-conscious recommendations from other readers would be welcome here. I'm not an IT professional. (Obviously! :) )
Johann
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