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EmmaW
10-11-2006, 06:17 PM
Has anyone got any experience of Capitol University? What kind of online school is that - it this institution a degree mill too?

johann
10-11-2006, 08:25 PM
Uh-huh!

What was your first clue - maybe the $199 price tag for a "fast track" prior experience degree? Or was it the non-CHEA recognized "Accreditor"? Or perhaps the "apostille" process they offered?

Do NOT confuse this $199 special with the FINE school in Ohio - Capital University, which is regionally accredited and was founded in 1830, by the Lutheran Church.

One of the worst and most common tricks in the book, imho, is to set up a "school" as close in name as possible to an established, reputable University, as in this case. And the cases of LaSalle (Philadelphia) & "LaSalle"(Louisiana), Regis and "St. Regis" and Case Western Reserve & "Weston Reserve," to name a few.

Regards

Johann

Dennis Ruhl
09-02-2007, 09:43 PM
How many universities like this do really exist on US soil? Because I keep hearing about them. I'm really thinking of dropping the whole college idea. The online university was out from the start. Too similar in feel to those


Just a bundle of positive energy, aren't we?

WA8VUV
09-03-2007, 12:24 AM
Has anyone got any experience of Capitol University? What kind of online school is that - it this institution a degree mill too?

Don't confuse the above Capitol University with the real thing, Capitol College.

http://www.capitol-college.edu/newsevents/80years/history.shtml

Capitol College has been around since 1927 and began as CREI, a correspondence school.

Bill

Kyle
09-03-2007, 12:30 AM
How many universities like this do really exist on US soil? Because I keep hearing about them. I'm really thinking of dropping the whole college idea. The online university was out from the start. Too similar in feel to those .

Stop spamming your website I noticed that you have 8 posts and each post refer to that Diploma mill website consider yourself banned. andyou posts deleted.

Dennis Ruhl
09-03-2007, 05:37 PM
Has anyone got any experience of Capitol University? What kind of online school is that - it this institution a degree mill too?


Dangerous! Dangerous! - a little knowledge that is.

http://www.capital.edu/

Capital University is a real Lutheran school. Many Missouri Synod Lutheran schools are named Concordia. None of them are degree mills.

The degreemill Concordia College and University was given its name to provide such confusion. The may very well be a degreemill called Capitol University also. This one concerns me.

http://www.capitoluniversity.com/

johann
09-04-2007, 10:58 PM
Hi Dennis -

Yes, this school domiciled in Dominica, www.capitoluniversity.com is certainly cause for concern. This is the animal I was talking about in my earlier posting in this thread. (30 lashes to me for not including the url!) Life experience degrees from $299 - I'll swear it was $199 when I first looked!

The school has ALL the earmarks, including apostilles and unrecognized credential evaluators, that you DO NOT find in a well-intentioned, credible but unaccredited school - and yes, I certainly admit that such schools exist.

And yes, as per your posting, there are around 9 legit Concordias (at least 8 Lutheran in origin) in N. America as well as the "lumpy" one on all the lists. It helps bolster my prior point about operators of BAD schools intentionally keeping their names close to GOOD schools. Same deal with the Capital/Capitol dichotomy here, and Regis/St. Regis, Case Western Reserve/Weston Reserve etc. in the past.

Cheers! :-)

Johann

peterhc
09-05-2007, 08:53 AM
I have been doing some checking on Capitol University to see if the Ministry of Education can vouche for them. So far, they say they don't know anything about this school. So what about these documents?

Capitol University is chartered as a Degree granting institution by the Government of the Commonwealth of Dominica. The University's by-laws provide the authority for granting and carrying out under-graduate, graduate & Doctoral programs targeting working executives world-wide.

Moreover the University's by-laws state that Capitol University is also responsible for promoting quality Research & Development work in higher studies. The University is in excellent academic standing with the Caribbean Supreme Court. The University's activities are in full compliance with the June 26 1996 IBC legislation of Dominica.

Please check out the Capitol University Certificate of Good Standing which states the nature of our business as a University and Graduate School, and the objects and purposes proposed to be transacted, promoted and carried on, are to carry on online and distance degree programs in Higher Education.

Please check to view the following Government issued documents in support of the Legal Identity of Capitol University.

http://www.capitoluniversity.com/

peter

johann
09-05-2007, 10:54 PM
Hi -

IBC legislation = International Business CORPORATIONS. This just means they started a corporation legally -according to Dominican requirements. Then they wrote their OWN by-laws, as corporations usually do.

This all means NOTHING to me in the academic sense. Just that they can LEGALLY operate a BUSINESS, which THEY choose to call a university.

To me, with degrees at $200-300, it's just that. A business - that prints and sells diplomas they choose to call degrees. I doubt Dominica has any laws against it, or they'd head for the Seychelles or some such haven.

All this wording just to say they're legal (in Dominica) - so people will MAYBE think they're GOOD!

Anybody capable of doing REAL university work successfully should be able to read and think critically enough to interpret the quoted statements for what they are! :-(

Johann

peterhc
09-06-2007, 05:34 PM
Anybody capable of doing REAL university work successfully should be able to read and think critically enough to interpret the quoted statements for what they are!

I wish it were as simple as that. Yes, people should, but don't.
Degrees for sale are from degree mills. Capitol qualifies. Claiming government authority to grant degrees is either true or false. My reading is that Capitol is operating legally to issue degrees which they sell to those folks we would like believe fall into the category of "being able to read and think critically"...

Peter

johann
09-07-2007, 07:10 PM
Hi Peter -

I think we're in total agreement here. As you said, people SHOULD, but they often don't or won't (read & think critically). Such people are Capitol's lawful prey (by Dominican law anyway).

Interesting - it USED to be legal in Wyoming (maybe 15 years ago) to form a corporation and call it a University. Wyoming had quite a state industry as a place friendly to formation and remote-hosting of corporations, but the rules have since changed. First, the State clamped down on the unbridled use of the word "University" in corporate names and now, as we all know, universities in Wyoming must accredit or leave the state.

I remember one '80s book on "how to inflate and aggrandize a false self-image" preaching against sending for a mail-order phony degree. For the same money or less, the writer suggested (at that time) you could form a Wyoming corporation called a University and print up your own diploma from this "University" you owned.

Well, that's enough rambling, I guess! Cheers! :-)

Johann