Ansted University ?

[cheer37]

Has anyone heard about ANSTED UNIVERSITY? Their website is http://www.ansteduniversity.org

It seem like bogus university operate from Malaysia! We couldn't find their contact elsewhere except at:

Office Address in Malaysia:

No.6, Lorong Nagasari 3,
Taman Nagasari Industrial Park,
13600 Penang.
Malaysia.
Fax/Tel: +6-04-399 3739 or +6-012-470 5688

[cklapka]

I am not sure they are bogus but there are certainly not accredited. Here this there information directly from their website regarding accreditation.


Accreditation

The Ansted University is authorized and endorsed by the governmental authority in the country of incorporation as well as by the local authority in different countries. AU is also internally accredited which means that the Board of Directors, Board of Governors and Board of Academic holds the responsibility of developing, maintaining, and enforcing its own high quality of standards for prior learning and experiential evaluation-based degree programs.

The Ansted University is not accredited by any of the regional accrediting organizations in the United States, United Kingdom, Europe, Canada, Asia, Australia and Africa. Accreditation is a voluntary process and is not a requirement by the department of education to grant degrees. AU has not applied for any such accreditation since it has no need to seek Government Funding. As we know, many private and non-governmental agencies have started accreditation activities, and some of them do not even meet certain standards. By whom Universities need to be accredited and finally, who accredits these accrediting agencies?

Despite all these, the AU has made arrangement with many recognized universities, institutions, and other community colleges for reciprocal recognition in many countries including USA, UK, Poland, France, Ireland, Spain, Italy, Canada, Belgium, Sweden, Switzerland, Asia, South-Asia, Latin America, Africa, etc. The AU graduates can transfer credits to those universities and institutions which has established agreement. AU graduates may also, continue their higher studies in case these students want to join other universities




They do proclaim to require credit to be taken at their institution to earn a degree. See more information here:

More Info (http://www.ansteduniversity.org/ansted_university/Ansted%20University%20Degree%20Programme/Ansted_University_Degree_Programme.htm)

They may be a legitimate university but I would still be cautious and investigate them further.

[johann]

Hi -

There may be a Malaysian office but the thing is a creature of the British Virgin Islands, apparently. At least they're up-front about not having accreditation in any one of a dozen countries. They'll give up to 30 transfer/experience credits for an Associate's and 90 for a Bachelor's. Transfer credits, OK - but this is 'WAY too much for experiential credits...

In N. America, (and many other places) an Ansted degree would have the limited utility for employment that any unaccredited degree has. I'm sure that for the same money, there are paths to accredited degrees that would be incredibly more useful if you need a degree to get a job.

I'm curious- all those "Professor Dr." people with the stupendous academic hats on Ansted's faculty --- WHERE did any of them get their doctorates? They don't say. I'm bettin' most were probably conferred at Ansted or another unaccredited school -- or they'd SAY if otherwise. Ansted doesn't appear to teach. According to their web-site, in the courses you don't get immediate transfer or experiential credit for, they give you a book-list, let you learn on your own and come back when you know something. Doesn't sound like instruction I'd be willing to pay much for...

Much of the English in their ad, while grammatically correct (well, almost so, much of the time, anyway) sounds strange and very non-native, as if it were written by very bright ESL students making a valiant stab at eloquence - ESL students with maybe a semester or two still to go... A University website in any language should use impeccable linguistics, to be fluent, idiomatic and correct in the chosen language. This one falls short and that's unforgivable.

With the suspect hats, doctorates of unknown origin, the strange blurb, over-generous experiential credits, lack of accreditation and the accessibility of REAL degrees for the same price (but likely much more work) ---well, there are six reasons I can find to go somewhere other than Ansted!

BUT - do as YOU WANT, not as I SAY. If you feel Ansted has what YOU want, (unaccredited quickie) then go for it - it's your money! Funny - I wasn't able to find them on the Oregon list - but they've GOTTA be on somebody's!! :-)

Johann

[johann]

It seems Ansted is in the habit of passing out honorary degrees and titles to people connected with REAL (accredited) universities - Google tells me Dr. Dana Barry of Clarkson University (Middle States Accredited) has been appointed president of Ansted's scientific board - by no less than BARON PROFESSOR DR. SIR Roger Haw of Ansted! My B.S. radar's on full alert, when people sport advanced degrees (often of undisclosed origin) together with far-fetched TITLES as well!

Another example - "H.E. Nobless Dame Commandeur Joy Beaudette Cripps," of Ansted conferred an honorary degree on Prof. M.N.S. Swamy of (legit) Concordia University (Canada).

Also, a Texas A&M professor, Dr. Kenneth E. Paprock received an honorary degree from the Malaysian branch of Ansted.

What's gonna happen when these respected schools, Texas A&M, Concordia and Clarkson realize the totally unaccredited caliber of the place (Ansted) that's been passing out honours to their faculty members?

If these people at Ansted have one more fanciful hat or imaginative title of nobility.... :-)

Johann

[johann]

Hi -

Oh wow! Look at Ansted, featured in the presentation "Around the World in 10 DEGREE MILLS!"

www.naric.org.uk/conference/presentations/Combating%20Fraud.ppt

Gotta be one of the Biggest and Baddest!


GOODBYE ANSTED! No more research needed! :-)

Johann

[cheer37]

Johann, "If these people at Ansted University had one more silly hat or imaginative title of nobility, they could be dangerous!"

BARON PROFESSOR DR. SIR Roger Haw ?

Did anyone know where this Roger Haw earn his "Dr."?
Did anyone know who conferred him the "Baron" and "Sir"?
Did anyone know which university appoint him "Professor"?

[johann]

There are almost as many places to get a fake title (e.g. Knight of the Eparchy of Nebraska) as there are to get a fake degree.

Sometimes it's the same outfit. - like a Sri Lankan school, the Open International University for Complementary Medicine, that admits for years the founder and his gang sold Ph.D degrees AND noble titles, for anmywhere from $400 to $850 U.S.

All these "bought" degrees and titles are fake! I remember one bogus outfit that would add an "Albert Schweitzer prize" to your bought doctorate for an additional $400!

Lots of Professor Dr. Sirs in charge of a lot of bogus schools - many should be Lords of the Cell Block, i.m.o.! I name no names, but I know most of 'em!

:-)
Johann

[cheer37]

Do you know that the so-called BARON PROFESSOR DR. SIR Roger is a former insurance salesman. Now he earn his living by selling degree.

He operate his diploma mill at:

No.6, Lorong Nagasari 3,
Taman Nagasari Industrial Park,
13600 Penang.
Malaysia.
Fax/Tel: +6-04-399 3739 or +6-012-470 5688

Ansted University was black listed by the Malaysian Ministry of Higher Education (http://www.mohe.gov.my/default_eng.php?&lang=ENG).

Now he keep low profile in Malaysia but actively in overseas.

[alex_weiss06]

Do you know that the so-called BARON PROFESSOR DR. SIR Roger is a former insurance salesman. Now he earn his living by selling degree.

He operate his diploma mill at:

No.6, Lorong Nagasari 3,
Taman Nagasari Industrial Park,
13600 Penang.
Malaysia.
Fax/Tel: +6-04-399 3739 or +6-012-470 5688

Ansted University was black listed by the Malaysian Ministry of Higher Education (http://www.mohe.gov.my/default_eng.php?&lang=ENG).

Now he keep low profile in Malaysia but actively in overseas.

Why Malaysian Ministry of Higher Education did not take action to close down this diploma mill?

Previously we also discussed about Akamai University which operates in Malaysia? Are they both connected to each other?

Besides Ansted University, are there any other diploma mill that operate in Malaysia?

[johann]

Hi Alex -

I'm sure the Malaysian authorities do their best, but I don't imagine there's much for them to close. Probably not more than a movable mail-drop at the Malaysian location. I'm not positive, but I don't think there's a connection between Akamai and Ansted - although, as you say, both have tried drumming up business in Malaysia.

Mills are kinda like cockroaches. Once they get into a place, they're hard to get out. The Malaysian Government has my sympathy. I think the higher ed. system in the country is excellent -- I've seen examples of absolutely world-class work by graduating students in Malaysian universities.

I seem to remember from our discussion on SPUNI (Southern Pacific) that it was, or had been, active in Malaysia also. Too bad the principal villains in charge of all these mills are offshore. I'm sure time spent in a Malaysian jail would be a more effective learning experience for them than another fake doctorate!

I spent some time on the well-written Malaysian Ministry of Higher Education site that Cheer37 linked us to. It was very informative. Although I wasn't able to find a "mill" or "bad school" list, it DID list ALL properly authorized colleges and universities (by type). My advice to prospective students of schools located in Malaysia would be: if it ISN'T on your Ministry's approved list, then DON'T SIGN UP!

Cheer37 - Thanks for the link to your country's excellent higher education system and the alert re: another bad school to avoid - Ansted. :-)

Johann

[johann]

Hi again -

It seems Vietnam and Malaysia are popular fishing-grounds for unaccredited schools lately. I see the unaccredited Preston University www.preston.edu (now moved from Wyoming to Alabama) is signing up students in Vietnam. Monkey see, monkey do. Likely there are at least 20 others of similar ilk.

Unaccredited schools could likely ruin the considerable market for distance-education in these populous countries. They will quickly dilute and sour the reputation currently enjoyed by the good overseas schools.

And we will stand by watching, wringing our hands....

Johann

[johann]

Hi Alex -

I remember a while back we also discussed Washington International University, (unaccredited) which sells in 112 countries. I'm sure Malaysia and Vietnam are two of them. By the way, it would seem that Akamai and Ansted are indeed not related, as I said. They ARE BOTH UNACCREDITED, though.

Dr. Douglass Capogrossi, President of Akamai, has three 100% legit degrees from an Ivy League school (Bachelor's, Master's and Ph.D - all from Cornell) and does NOT wear a preposterous academic hat in his web-picture. Nor does he claim a fanciful title. These facts put him three full lengths ahead of Baron-Professor-Dr. Haw of Ansted, in the "Unaccredited Stakes," but it's still a horse-race where I really don't want to be a spectator or a contestant!

Johann

[cheer37]

Very curious and suspicious

... where did Roger Haw earned his "PhD"?
... did anyone know which country conferred him the "Baron" title?
... did anyone know who knight him the "Sir" title?
... did anyone know which university appoint him the "Professorship"?

Or, are all these titles are FAKE?

[alex_weiss06]

Very curious and suspicious

... where did Roger Haw earned his "PhD"?
... did anyone know which country conferred him the "Baron" title?
... did anyone know who knight him the "Sir" title?
... did anyone know which university appoint him the "Professorship"?

Or, are all these titles are FAKE?

I guess you must have done a lot of research about Ansted.
Please share with us the insight.
For me, Ansted seems very real to me. Is it really a bogus university?
May be you can answer us.

[alex_weiss06]

Hi -

Oh wow! Look at Ansted, featured in the presentation "Around the World in 10 DEGREE MILLS!"

www.naric.org.uk/conference/presentations/Combating%20Fraud.ppt

Gotta be one of the Biggest and Baddest!


GOODBYE ANSTED! No more research needed! :-)

Johann

Hi Johan,
If Ansted is degree mill, why would Clarkson University (US) received the award at International Conference On Corporate Social Responsibility.
See below link:
http://www.clarkson.edu/news/view.php?id=1183

Are you saying Clarkson university is a degree mill too?:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Others links that show positive about Ansted:
http://www.space-explorers.com/internal/events/clarksonpress.html
http://www.hku.hk/linguist/staff/AnstedTalk0801.doc
http://www.nec.com.sg/bccs/News/2004/041123.htm
http://www.eastdunbartonshirecvs.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=622&Itemid=2

http://www.lexpress.mu/display_article_sup.php?news_id=77547

http://www.authorzone.com/view_articles.php?articleid=45

http://dau.lv/ise/publications_volume1.htm

[cheer37]

Do you know Ansted University is one man band university run by Roger Haw alone? He is a great salesman, and he is using the Social Responsibility International Awards as a front!

If the Ansted Awards recipient know the background of this university and it founder, they will definately shy away.

Do you know where is this university locate?

This so-called university is located in a small residential house at the following address:

No.6, Lorong Nagasari 3,
Taman Nagasari Industrial Park,
13600 Penang.
Malaysia.
Fax/Tel: +6-04-399 3739 or +6-012-470 5688

The above phone number +6-012-470 5688 is the cell phone of so-called BARON PROFESSOR DR. SIR Roger Haw.

[alex_weiss06]

Do you know Ansted University is one man band university run by Roger Haw alone? He is a great salesman, and he is using the Social Responsibility International Awards as a front!

If the Ansted Awards recipient know the background of this university and it founder, they will definately shy away.

Do you know where is this university locate?

This so-called university is located in a small residential house at the following address:

No.6, Lorong Nagasari 3,
Taman Nagasari Industrial Park,
13600 Penang.
Malaysia.
Fax/Tel: +6-04-399 3739 or +6-012-470 5688

The above phone number +6-012-470 5688 is the cell phone of so-called BARON PROFESSOR DR. SIR Roger Haw.

Hi Cheer37, I'm not sure what is your actual intention to portray a negative image about Ansted and Prof. Dr. Roger Haw.
So far, I could not find any evidence from internet to show that Ansted is either a diploma mill or a degree mill. I believe there is nothing wrong if the location of university in a residential area. I even believe that Prof. Dr. Haw has done a an excellent job to promote Ansted and collabrorate with other reputated international faculty like Clarkson University. You must understand that being a good saleman is for survival. As a private university, you need to make profit by getting as many students as possible. This is a very logical sense. If you still feel that Ansted is a bogus university and Prof. Dr. Haw is fake, please provide us more evidences.:?

[cheer37]

BARON PROFESSOR DR. SIR Roger Haw ?

... where did Roger Haw earned his "PhD"?
... which country conferred him the "Baron" title?
... know who knight him the "Sir" title?
... which university appoint him the "Professorship"?

Or, are all these titles FAKE?

[alex_weiss06]

BARON PROFESSOR DR. SIR Roger Haw ?

... where did Roger Haw earned his "PhD"?
... which country conferred him the "Baron" title?
... know who knight him the "Sir" title?
... which university appoint him the "Professorship"?

Or, are all these titles FAKE?

I guess you supposed to find out for us since you are skeptical about Prof. Dr. Haw's qualification. For me "sir" or "baron" is just a title to add credential to someone because of his/her contriution to society.I don't see anything wrong.When you claim something, you better provide the reason and also support by evidence.:rolleyes:

[cheer37]

We don't claim something. We just curious to know:

... where did Roger Haw earned his "PhD"?
... which country conferred him the "Baron" title?
... who knight him the "Sir" title?
... which university appoint him the "Professorship"?

Or, are all these titles FAKE?

If it is genuine, Roger Haw should come forward and defence.

[tony_ramos]

Hi, I'm Tony. I'm a new member of this Board.
I'm very interested in this topic.

[tony_ramos]

We don't claim something. We just curious to know:

... where did Roger Haw earned his "PhD"?
... which country conferred him the "Baron" title?
... who knight him the "Sir" title?
... which university appoint him the "Professorship"?

Or, are all these titles FAKE?

If it is genuine, Roger Haw should come forward and defence.

I found that Dr. DANA M. BARRY is a visiting professor to Ansted University.
http://people.clarkson.edu/~dmbarry/

She also involves in "WORLD FIRST MARSLINK MISSION" that associated with Prof. Dr. Haw of Ansted. See below link:
http://www.space-explorers.com/internal/events/clarkson2005.html

From this webiste, you can read:

"Baron Sir Professor Dr. Roger Haw (Founding Member of Ansted University) is a coordinator and the main contact person for the MarsLink team members in Malaysia. (The team includes students at Ansted University and St. Xavier's Institution.) Dr. Haw provides continuous support and encourages the team to actively participate in MarsLink - related activities and projects. He received an award for his outstanding contributions to the National Award winning World First MarsLink Space Program."

One of the book co-written by Prof. Dr Haw:
http://www.institut-climatechange.si/pdfs/Book%20-%20Our%20Comon%20Enemy%20-%20May%202006.pdf

[johann]

Hi

YOU DID NOT "FIND" anything! At least, not till long after I showed you!

I ALREADY POSTED 3 examples of Ansted's handing out degrees or appointments to people with legit, accredited universities -

Dana Barry - Clarkson
Dr. Kenneth Paprock - Texas A & M
Dr. M. Swamy, Concordia U. (Canada)

No, it DOES NOT turn Clarkson, Texas A&M or Concordia into mills, any more than it turns Ansted into a credible school! It's just a SALES GIMMICK -Ansted hands out stuff to largely unsuspecting people at good schools (who should know better, i.m.o), to get good P.R. that connects their worthless name positively with these schools! At some point the good schools are going to figure out what kind of outfit Ansted is, and then they're not going to want their faculty accepting garbage and posing for pics!

As to Baron Professor Sir Dr. Haw - former insurance salesman - and Her Excellency Dame Commandeur Joy Beaudette Cripps - how can you honestly have faith in their titles any more than Ansted's degrees?

If those titles were genuine coin-of-the-realm (which they aren't) they'd both be listed in Brett's - which they definitely aren't! Surf some sites dealing with fake nobility and bought titles sometime -- you might learn something!

You guys! If you believe in Ansted, then send them your money! Maybe you need an expensive lesson! :-(

Otherwise, see http://www.naric.org.uk/conference/presentations/Combating%20Fraud.ppt

Ansted is widely known as a MILL. CASE CLOSED!

Johann

[cheer37]

Hi Johann, your are right. It's just a SALES GIMMICK -Ansted hands out stuff to largely unsuspecting people at good schools (who should know better, i.m.o), to get good P.R. that connects their worthless name positively with these schools!

If the head of schools or recipients of so-called Social Responsibility International Awards found out what kind of outfit Ansted is.... they will definately shy away.

Do Ansted has the DEGREE GRANTING authority?
Ansted is incorporated in the British Virgin Island and BVI do NOT have the degree granting authority.

Any Tom. Dick and Harry can incorporate a so-called University for a fee of US$1,275. Please visit http://www.bvi-corporations-ibc-incorporate-in-bvi.offshore-companies.co.uk/fees_and_offshore_packages/prices_in_usd/. That is the reason WHY BVI is famous for DIPLOMA MILLS.

ANSTED UNIVERSITY http://www.ansteduniversity.org/Contact/Contact.html
Registered Address in British Virgin Islands:
Omar Hodge Building,
Wickhams Cay,
Box 362, Road Town,
Tortola,
British Virgin Islands.


British Virgin Islands IBC's Have the Following Features and Advantages:

Privacy for identity of principals

Under normal circumstances, BVI Corporations can be incorporated/Registered within 3 working days.

Flexibility in company structure of an offshore British Virgin Islands Company.

Only one director or shareholder required for the company formation.
Shareholder(s) and director(s) may be the same person.

The shareholder(s) and director(s) can be a natural person or a corporate body.

There is no requirement of appointing local shareholder(s) and director(s) for British Virgin Island Companies.
There is no requirement of resident secretary.

The BVI incorporation documents do not carry the name or identity of any shareholder of director. The names or identities of these persons do not appear in any public record. For further info, visit http://www.bvi-corporations-ibc-incorporate-in-bvi.offshore-companies.co.uk/

[johann]

Hi -

Thanks for the great info on BVI incorporations! Good to know, if I ever want to start a mill.

By the way, I read some biographical info on Baron Prof. Dr. Sir Roger Haw. As he was born in 1969, it appears he was maybe 23 years of age at the most, when he founded Ansted University in 1992.

Unless he was some sort of prodigy -and I have no reason to suspect that he was - I think it would be EXTREMELY doubtful that he would have qualified for a Doctorate at any accredited school by that age. I suspect that his Doctorate is likely from his own school - Ansted.

Where he got the titles of Baron and Knight (Sir) I do not know. I DO know, however, that such titles (completely without merit) can be bought from places like the "Eparchy of Nebraska," the "Principality of Seborga" and other such fanciful sources. There are title-mills, just the same as there are degree-mills!

I believe Baron Prof. Dr. Sir Roger's fellow faculty member at Ansted, Her Excellency Joy Beaudette Cripps, Dame Commandeur, Ph.D., Ed.D., (Ansted?) was once President of the Melbourne (Australia) Poetry Society. She herself has published some 18 volumes of poetry. Judging by her penchant for poetry and fanciful titles, I would think she has an excellent and fertile imagination!

Want to see another good one? Have a look at this um.."school" with no recognized accreditation, registered in the Seychelles. http://westonreserve.org/message.htm Note how the name resembles Case Western Reserve, a famed American University!

Thanks again for your fine expose on how things are done, corporately, in the BVI! Great work! :-)

Prof Dr Sir Johann, Knight-Commander and Duke of Omsk, Tomsk, Minsk, Pinsk & Tobolsk!

[cheer37]

Where did BARON PROFESSOR DR. SR Roger Haw earned his Bachelor's, Master's and Ph.D?

We has been asking him where he earned those degree since 2003 and until today he has NOT reveal!

The time we know him he was an insurance salesman. We will shock suddenly he became a learned man with so many titles - Baron, Sir, Professor, Dr etc.

[tony_ramos]

Where did BARON PROFESSOR DR. SR Roger Haw earned his Bachelor's, Master's and Ph.D?

We has been asking him where he earned those degree since 2003 and until today he has NOT reveal!

The time we know him he was an insurance salesman. We will shock suddenly he became a learned man with so many titles - Baron, Sir, Professor, Dr etc.

Please take a look the qualification of "Prof. Dr. Anantha Krishnan":
Academic and Professional Qualifications

Bachelor of Pharmacy (Hons), University Science Malaysia.
Graduate Royal Institute of Purchasing and Supply, UK.
Diploma in Administrative Management, Institute of Administrative Management, UK.
Masters in Business Administration, Kennedy Western University, USA.
PhD. in Business Administration, Kennedy Western University, USA.
PhD. In Naturopathy (Natural Medicine), granted by Royal Charter, Alternative Medicines Research Institute (AMRI), EU.
Doctor of Alternative Medicine (AM. D.), Weston Reserve University, EU.
Doctor of Medical Science, granted by Kuwait Royal Academic Charter, HealthPro University, Canada.

Senior Professor of School of Natural Health Sciences, Weston Reserve University, EU.
Senior Professor of School Natural Health Sciences, Department of Education of the Alternative Medicines Research Institute (AMRI), EU.
Professor of Medicine, granted by Kuwait Royal Academic Charter, HealthPro University, Canada
http://amriasia.org/prof_ak.htm
Do you think his qualification as fake as to Prof. Dr Haw?

[johann]

Tony!

WHY are you introducing THIS guy into the thread. He doesn't work for Ansted, does he??

Anyway, now we're on the subject - YES - SEVERAL OF HIS DEGREES are from BOGUS or SUBSTANDARD UNACCREDITED schools - and having three or four clinkers on the resume doesn't bode well for the rest!!

KENNEDY WESTERN - Wyoming. Called a MILL by some, SUBSTANDARD by most and UNACCREDITED by everyone. This school is now morphing into "Warren National University" and is still unaccredited. It is on the Oregon list - and other States' lists - of degrees you can't use for employment. If "warren National" doesn't gain accreditation it will have to leave Wyoming (State Law.)

WESTON RESERVE - Darn it, don't you READ? I just gave the link in my previous posting!

http://westonreserve.org/message.htm

This unaccredited school, (mill according to many - including smarter people than me) domiciled in the Seychelles, is a creation of "Prof. Dr. Sir Egbert Phipps" - sometimes titling himself Duke of Minsk. Google "Egbert Phipps" and you will see other unaccredited schools (one here in Canada) he has been involved with. Click on the link - see his picture!

HEALTHPRO UNIVERSITY

The site, www.healthprouniversity.com says it all. Why would a school site be .com? (Maybe because a .CON would be too obvious! :-) ) Healthpro University does not have the proper Provincial Ministry approval for a Canadian University. I live here and I know! I think this quote right from their site says it best:

"HealthPro University is affiliated with Weston Reserve University." So there we have it - one unaccredited school (in several countries) that's a branch of ANOTHER school, deemed by many a mill. If you Google "Egbert Phipps" you will see his name linked not only with his own creation, Weston Reserve, but with other unaccredited schools of health disciplines or near-medicine.

Interestingly - both Healthpro and Weston Reserve have Kuwait Royal Charters. Yeah, so what? WIDU (World Information Distributed University) has a Belgian Royal Proclamation! Both impressive, but not worth ANYTHING academically! These fancy papers won't get EITHER place any recognizable accreditation, because they don't, won't or can't meet the standards!

ALTERNATIVE MEDICINES RESEARCH INSTITUTE

Again, from their site -- http://www.altmedresearch.org/AMRI/contact.htm

Alternative Medicines Research Organisation (ARMO)

Prof. Dr. E.G. Phipps, Chairman & Founder
Post Office Box 74178 RPO Hillcrest
Vancouver, B.C. V5V 5C8 Canada
Tel. 01 (604) 325-7948
Fax 01 (604) 325-7949
e-mail: EgbertPhipps@hotmail.com

So, Phipps founded this baby, too! Awww - it's all linked together!

Tony, WHY do you keep bringing in schools, etc. like this? I won't waste any more time on 'em!

Prof. Dr. Sir Johann, Knight Commander of Omsk Tomsk Minsk Pinsk and Tobolsk

[Ahmed]

Hi Guys

This is so interesting about Western Resrve University:
Weston Reserve University is an unaccredited institution of higher learning which claims accreditation by the Royal Family of Kuwait to award degrees for "vocational experience" and course work, although it appears to operate mainly in the United States and Canada. It does not appear on UNESCO's list of accredited universities in Kuwait, or on the databases of accredited institutions in the USA or elsewhere. The website also claims accreditation by International Association of Educators for World Peace, but this is not a recognized accreditation association of higher learning. Without USDE and CHEA to recognize the "accreditation agency" such accreditations are "bogus" to the academic community.

Although its name sounds similar to that of Case Western Reserve University, a highly regarded, fully US-accredited instiution located in Cleveland, Ohio, the two should not be confused. Obfuscation over accreditation and a name which appears deliberately similar to a legitimate institution in the USA have led to speculation that it might be a degree mill. Weston Reserve University is not accredited by any accreditation body recognized by its country. As such, its degrees and credits might not be acceptable to employers or other institutions, and use of degree titles may be restricted or illegal in some jurisdictions.


Dr. Ahmed

[johann]

Hi -

Yeah, Ahmed - what you said! Right on!

Weston Reserve = mill
Ansted = mill
Prof Dr. Sirs = many of 'em with bogus degrees and titles

ROFLMAO! :-)

Case closed!

Supt. Johann of the "Mill Police"

[johann]

Hi -

This site gives GREAT explanations re: sources of fake titles. One or two mentioned are in the British Virgin Islands - home to Ansted - Baron Prof. Dr. Sir Roger's creation...hmmm....

As for his Ansted colleague, Her Excellency Joy Beaudette Cripps, Ph.D., D. Ed., her "Dame Commander" title sounds like it MIGHT have come from the Church of St. Lazarus, here in Canada - also mentioned on the site. Sadly, the web-link no longer operates, so I can't order a Knight Commander title for myself. Darn, I'll just have to fire up my printer!!

www.faketitles.com Really interesting reading! Especially the "WARNING" button which takes you to discussion of most of the fakes!

Prof. Dr. Sir Johann - Knight Commander, Order of the Pizza :-)

[tony_ramos]

Tony!

WHY are you introducing THIS guy into the thread. He doesn't work for Ansted, does he??

Both of these 2 guys have something in common???????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????

[tony_ramos]

Where did BARON PROFESSOR DR. SR Roger Haw earned his Bachelor's, Master's and Ph.D?

We has been asking him where he earned those degree since 2003 and until today he has NOT reveal!

The time we know him he was an insurance salesman. We will shock suddenly he became a learned man with so many titles - Baron, Sir, Professor, Dr etc.

Hi Cheer,
I guess you have undermined the credibility & respect of Dr. Prof. Haw.
In reality, Dr. Haw has written & published book. Check it yourself.

1) Perspectives on Corporate Social Responsibility
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0754638863/ref=sib_dp_pt/102-1660516-5785737#reader-link

2)OUR COMMON ENEMY (The Climate Change System Threat)
http://www.institut-climatechange.si/pdfs/Book%20-%20Our%20Comon%20Enemy%20-%20May%202006.pdf

So, don't you think he is qualified to be a professor? Don't tell me those books are fake too!:roll:

[JohnDoe]

Hi Cheer,
I guess you have undermined the credibility & respect of Dr. Prof. Haw.
In reality, Dr. Haw has written & published book. Check it yourself.

1) Perspectives on Corporate Social Responsibility
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0754638863/ref=sib_dp_pt/102-1660516-5785737#reader-link

2)OUR COMMON ENEMY (The Climate Change System Threat)
http://www.institut-climatechange.si/pdfs/Book%20-%20Our%20Comon%20Enemy%20-%20May%202006.pdf

So, don't you think he is qualified to be a professor? Don't tell me those books are fake too!:roll:

Writing books, and beeing a professor, seems to me like having nothing to do with each other.

Writing books does not qualify towards beeing a professor.

I only have a bachelor, but I could write some books if wanted to, and most probably get them published as well, but that does not qualify me for no professorate :)

[tony_ramos]

Writing books, and beeing a professor, seems to me like having nothing to do with each other.

Writing books does not qualify towards beeing a professor.

I only have a bachelor, but I could write some books if wanted to, and most probably get them published as well, but that does not qualify me for no professorate :)

I agreed with you totally. However, being a professor, he/she must have written many books and published many papers, this is what I'm talking about Prof. Dr. Haw.:D

[johann]

Tony -

Yes, as you say, those two individuals have "something in common" all right - FAKE DEGREES!

Send them enough money and YOU CAN HAVE ONE TOO!

I am AMAZED that anybody could still believe that because a person has written a book (or even 20 books) that their BOGUS academic qualifications suddenly become the real deal! Umm..."schools" like Ansted make a GOOD LIVING from people as credulous as you!

I think it is going to take a MAJOR loss of money before you realize what bad schools these are. By all means send your money to Ansted or wherever you like - ALL of your money - TODAY! :-) LOL

You will DEFINITELY learn something by doing this - but you WON'T LIKE the experience! :-) Or maybe, when you receive your FAKE degree, you can quickly dash off a few books, in the vain hope that the worthless piece of paper will suddenly become real! ROFLMAO! :-) :-)

"Admiral" Baron Dr. Sir Johann of the good ship Millbuster!

[Ahmed]

HI All

Writting books is one thing, anyone with enough time on their hands can write a book, write thousands of books. That does not change that fact that their title is legitimate or not.
If the person wrote books it will obviously come across to someone that the title of Professor is legimate.
If one investigates deeper, in the qualifications that will spell out whether the qualification is fake or not.

The question I want to ask is: Is Profesor Haw qualification from a degree mill or not?, not how many books he has written.
If is from a bogus institution, like Ansted, Then he is a bogus proffesor.........period.

Supt. Johann, do a proper investigation so this case can be closed.

Dr. Ahmed

[johann]

Hi -

As far as I'm concerned, the case is already closed. There WAS a PDF profile of Baron Prof. Dr. Sir Roger Haw on the Ansted Site but it appears to have been removed.

As I said before, he was no more than 23 when he founded Ansted and I can't see how he could have earned a legit doctorate by that time.

Nowhere, in his books or elsewhere could I find the source of his doctorate, so if it isn't Ansted, it's a mystery he wishes to keep, I guess. I DID find more titles, however; in the preface to his co-authored book on climate change, he's "His Excellency Col. Chevalier Prof. Dr. Haw!" That kind of credential hyperinflation finishes it for me!

Speaking of authors with unaccredited degrees, there is a recent famous example: I'm sure you know of John Gray, Ph.D., author of the best-seller "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus."

Dr Gray's writing has made him very famous and much in demand on the speaker's circuit. He makes no false claims about his Doctorate, which is from the unaccredited (now closed) Columbia Pacific University. I believe this school was founded by a Harvard M.D., Dr. Richard Crews. It was never accredited and legal troubles forced its closure some years ago - see the following link:
http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/News/cpu.html

My point is: Gray is a best-selling author - a great success in pop culture and imo, a very intelligent man. However, all his success and talent does NOT make his degree from an unaccredited, closed school ONE bit better.

Writing one or even twenty good books may very well make someone rich and/or famous. What it will NOT do is change an unacceptable DEGREE into a good one! No - not even for a Baron Prof. Dr. Sir!

Johann

[johann]

Hi -

In case you forgot Ahmed, I said "case closed" back a couple of pages, when Ansted was featured on the Naric link I gave - "Around the World in 10 degree mills."

As far as His Excellency, Baron Col. Chevalier Prof. Dr. Sir Roger Haw and her Excellency, Lady Dame Commander D. Litt. D. Ed., Joy Beaudette Cripps 'n them folks from Ansted, here's some more "Noble Order Bafflespeak" from the Ansted newsletter. I can hardly believe the exalted heights to which they've taken the art of faux-credential oneupmanship!

"Our Honorable Founder members Baron Sir Acad. Prof. Dr. Roger Haw has been appointed as an Exarch in April 2001 for the English/Europe Dynastic Order, Orders of Chivalry and International Order by several European Royal families. Also appointed as a Representative for Knights of the Sovereign Teutonic Order. In 2000 & 2001 he has been inducted into various English, Europe and USA Noble title Orders “Sir” & “Baron”. In 2000 he was appointed by the World Human Right Service Council to the United Nations to serve as a Goodwill Ambassador and Diplomat for the Sovereign State of Mind, the Conch Republic to the Nation of Japan. He is also the founding member of BALKAN Academy of Sciences, New Culture & Sustainable Development in Sofia, Bulgaria. Thank you, H.H.M. Dr. Richard The King of Hay, H.E. Dr. Shah Sufi M N Alam, H.E. Sir Prof. Dr. Silverio Signoracci, Acad. Prof. Dr. Marin R. Mehandjiev and H.E. Sir Peter Anderson."

The "Sovereign Teutonic Order" referred to can be seen at www.teutonicknight.com. Be a Baron! Be a Knight! Place your Teutonic Order today!

ROFLMAO! :-) :-) :-) :-)

Johann

[Ahmed]

Thank YoU Johann

Case Closed

Dr. Ahmed

[alex_weiss06]

Hi -

Yeah, Ahmed - what you said! Right on!

Weston Reserve = mill
Ansted = mill
Prof Dr. Sirs = many of 'em with bogus degrees and titles

ROFLMAO! :-)

Case closed!

Supt. Johann of the "Mill Police"
...............................

[alex_weiss06]

...............................
You can see that Clarkson has mentioned about Ansted in the recent new release:

"Dr. Dana M. Barry, senior technical writer and editor at Clarkson University's Center for Advanced Materials Processing (CAMP), has coauthored two new creative science books. Barry's book Develop Critical Thinking Skills, Solve a Mystery, Learn Science includes two thrilling mystery ..............

Barry serves as Scientific Board President for Ansted University. She is a certified professional chemist and has permanent teacher certification in New York sate to teach chemistry and the general sciences in grades 7 -12. Barry has numerous honors, including 11 consecutive APEX Awards for Publication Excellence, national awards for her World First MarsLink and Chemical Sensation Programs, and bio listings in Marquis Who's Who in American Education (7th Edition, 2006-2007), Marquis Who's Who of American Women (25th Edition, 2006-2007), and Marquis Who's Who in Science and Engineering (9th Edition, 2006-2007). In addition, Dr. Barry has more than 100 professional publications including eight books, a book chapter, science encyclopedia entries, journal features, scripts for television shows, and music CDs.

You can read the whole news as below:
http://www.clarkson.edu/news/view.php?id=1730

The question here is why Clarkson has repeatedly mentioned about Ansted ?
If Ansted is fake or diploma mill, I would not think Clarkson would like to associate its name with Ansted, am I right?

[johann]

Hi Alex -

I'm sure neither Clarkson, nor Texas A&M nor Concordia (one of the good Concordias - this particular one in Canada) are strangers to their faculty receiving honours, prizes or honorary degrees from other institutions.

They hardly have time to check them all - after all, what's the harm in some outfit presenting their professor with an award? Feather in the school's cap too, right? I'm pretty confident, though, that if they stopped to check what kind of outfit Ansted was (or the kind that other schools of that general - uh - calibre were) they'd be dismayed -and that may yet happen in those cases.

The way I see it, these Ansted um..."honours" in NO way detract from the competence, ability or sincerity of Dr. Barry, Dr. Paprock or Dr. Swamy --- or faculty members of any other University that Ansted chooses to honour - but presenting these awards and honorary degrees DOES NOT make Ansted itself a better school! No sir, not one tiny bit!

I see these awards as a gimmick. Ansted gives some honorary degrees to a group of smart scholars/teachers who have (and deserve) legitimate degrees and people notice. I'm fairly confident that Baron Prof. Dr. Sir Roger 'n all them give awards in the hope that people will notice Ansted degrees being held by people with other (accredited) degrees. The intent, I'm sure, is to make prospective Ansted students feel that, with an Ansted degree, they'd be considered just as smart and qualified as these people who have legit degrees...

Like I said, a gimmick! It only works on the most credulous sort of people...the kind schools like Ansted need.

Long ago, smarter people than me denounced Ansted as a mill. I've given you the links to their articles. You don't have to share my opinion (or theirs) if you don't want to. Make up your OWN mind about Ansted as you see fit -- but you WON'T be changing mine anytime soon.... STILL ROFLMAO & LOL :-)

Johann

[cheer37]

Johann, you are right.... it is a great gimmick!

They are also using the Social Responsibility International Awards as a front to cover their diploma mill activities. If the so called SRIA Awards recipients knew the background of Ansted University and it founder, they will definately feel embarass.

"One man cannot do right in one department of life whilst he is occupied in doing wrong in any other department. Life is one indivisible whole" said Mahatma Gandhi

[johann]

Hi Cheer37

Mahatma Gandhi is one of the most quotable people who ever lived - and the quote you gave us is among his best...I'll try to live up to it! Thanks!

Cheers :-)

Johann

[cheer37]

IS ANSTED NOT A FAKE UNIVERSITY?

ANSTED UNIVERSITY
Registered Address in British Virgin Islands:
Omar Hodge Building,
Wickhams Cay,
Box 362, Road Town,
Tortola,
British Virgin Islands.
http://www.ansteduniversity.org/Contact/Contact.html


ANSTED is sharing the same registered address and PO BOX with many offshore companies, and some have used the address as their dubious operation. Such as:

FINANCIAL CRIME NEWS http://home.att.net/~fcwriter/alerts5.htm

November 21: Hong Kong Securities and Futures Commission (SFC)
The SFC has updated the following on its list of unlicensed investment sellers:

Landmark Trade Services Ltd., Omar Hodge Building, Wickams Cay I, PO Box 362, Road Town, Tortola, British Virgin Islands, which also gives an address of 8/F, Bank of America Tower, 12 Harcourt Raod, central Hong Kong. The SFC notes that this entity appears to be linked to Pricestone Group SI, operating from Spain. (November 16, 2005 update).

"The AFM warns against Venta Capital (Private Management) Group Ltd."
The Netherlands Authority for the Financial Markets ("AFM") is warning investors not to respond to offers of securities services made by the institution who uses both the name Venta Capital Private Management Group Ltd. as well as the name Venta Capital Group Ltd. (together "Venta") (address used: Omar Hodge Building, Wickhams Cay 1, Road Town - Tortola, British Virgin Islands). http://www.afm.nl/corporate/default.ashx?DocumentId=6650


Here is some of offshore companies sharing the same address and/or PO BOX with Ansted. If you take something to search in the Google Search, you could found hundreds of companies sharing the same address:


Registered office:
Belgravia Intervest Group Limited
Omar Hodge Building
P.O. Box 362
Road Town
Tortola
British Virgin Islands
http://www.bigoffshore.net/information.html


Corporate Headquarters
Emnet Results LTD
Omar Hodge Building B. 362
Wickhams Cay
Road Town
Tortola
The British Virgin Islands
http://www.goldentrivia.com/contact.asp



General Enterprise Management Services Limited (GEMS)
Omar Hodge Building
Wickhams Cay I
P.O. Box 362
Road Town, Tortola
British Virgin Islands
http://www.gems.com.hk/contact/contact.htm



PLANTATION GROWN TIMBERS LIMITED
Omar Hodge Building
Wickhams Cay 1
P.O. Box 362 Roadtown
Tortola
British Virgin Islands
http://www.pgtmate.com/contact.htm


SIC Management Limited
Omar Hodge Building,
Wickhams Cay,
P.O.Box 362,
Road Town,
Tortola,
British Virgin Islands
http://www.sicmgt.com/

Inosym Ltd
3rd Floor Omar Hodge Building
Wickhams Cay I
P.O Box 362
Road Town
Tortola
British Virgin Islands
Fax (email fax) : +1 208 248 0226
Fax : +64 3 341 6668
Ph: +64 21 353 634
Email: inosym@inosym.com
http://www.inosym.com/about.html


CARIBBEAN CORPORATE SERVICES LTD
OMAR HODGE BUILDING
WICKHAMS CAY PO BOX 362
ROAD TOWN TORTOLA BVI
http://www.ukdata.com/numbers/FC018611.html

[Ahmed]

hI aLL

mAYBE ITS expensive to get a post box in the Virgin Isle, so these companies put money together and pay for one box. Just like foreigners club money together, and about 8 nigerians stay in a single room.

Ever though of it.....lol

Dr. Ahmed

[cheer37]

Dear Johann,

What is your comment on this...

"ANSTED is sharing the same registered address and PO BOX with many offshore companies, and some have used the address as their dubious operation as mentioned in the above post."

[tony_ramos]

Hi Alex -

I'm sure neither Clarkson, nor Texas A&M nor Concordia (one of the good Concordias - this particular one in Canada) are strangers to their faculty receiving honours, prizes or honorary degrees from other institutions.

They hardly have time to check them all - after all, what's the harm in some outfit presenting their professor with an award? Feather in the school's cap too, right? I'm pretty confident, though, that if they stopped to check what kind of outfit Ansted was (or the kind that other schools of that general - uh - calibre were) they'd be dismayed -and that may yet happen in those cases.

The way I see it, these Ansted um..."honours" in NO way detract from the competence, ability or sincerity of Dr. Barry, Dr. Paprock or Dr. Swamy --- or faculty members of any other University that Ansted chooses to honour - but presenting these awards and honorary degrees DOES NOT make Ansted itself a better school! No sir, not one tiny bit!

I see these awards as a gimmick. Ansted gives some honorary degrees to a group of smart scholars/teachers who have (and deserve) legitimate degrees and people notice. I'm fairly confident that Baron Prof. Dr. Sir Roger 'n all them give awards in the hope that people will notice Ansted degrees being held by people with other (accredited) degrees. The intent, I'm sure, is to make prospective Ansted students feel that, with an Ansted degree, they'd be considered just as smart and qualified as these people who have legit degrees...

Like I said, a gimmick! It only works on the most credulous sort of people...the kind schools like Ansted need.

Long ago, smarter people than me denounced Ansted as a mill. I've given you the links to their articles. You don't have to share my opinion (or theirs) if you don't want to. Make up your OWN mind about Ansted as you see fit -- but you WON'T be changing mine anytime soon.... STILL ROFLMAO & LOL :-)

Johann

Hello Johann,

Dr. Dana Barry is just a technical writter in Clarkson but as a visiting professor to many universities. This is what I could find:

PRESIDENT of Ansted University's Scientific Board, British Virgin Islands, U.K. (July 2003 - present)
VISITING PROFESSOR for Suzuka National College of Technology, Japan (November 2005)
VISITING PROFESSOR in Malaysia (November 2004)
VISITING PROFESSOR - England (September 2003)
VISITING PROFESSOR for Suzuka National College of Technology, Japan (August 2002)
VISITING PROFESSOR for Ansted University (March 2001)
EXTERNAL PROFESSOR & HONORARY ADVISORY COUNCIL MEMBER for Ansted University, (2000 - present)
INSTRUCTOR for graduate course in Elementary Science Methods at Potsdam College - Fall Semester 2003
INSTRUCTOR for Horizon Program at Clarkson University, 2002 - present
EDITOR & SENIOR TECHNICAL WRITER for Clarkson's Center for Advanced Materials Processing (CAMP) 1993 - present
PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR for Clarkson's REU (Research Experience for Undergraduates) Program 1998-1999
PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR for the Clarkson Space Grant Program 1993-1999
EDITOR for Clarkson's space magazine PARALLAX 1993-1999

Why Clarkson did not hire her as assoc. prof or even a lecturer? Will it be any conflict of interest between her job in Clarkson and her non-Clarkson job?

[johann]

Hi Tony -

If you have understood all you have read, you should be able to infer at least ONE possible answer --which I'll outline anyway.

Before we get going, nothing I say here is meant as disrespect in any way to Dana Barry. If I am right, that's OK and she's a fine person, and neither her ability nor her school (Clarkson) is diminished in any way. If I am wrong, I offer her my sincere apology for any incorrect assumptions.

I notice she is NOT referred to as Dr. Barry anywhere on the Clarkson site and I'm pretty sure a doctorate is NOT usually required for a position as technical writer. I'm therefore assuming that her only Doctorate is the honorary one conferred on her by Ansted. Now, a valid, accredited non-honorary Doctorate WOULD be required to be a professor at Clarkson or any other RA school.

I'm assuming because she is not referred to as Dr. Barry by the school where she works (as a technical writer), she neither possesses, nor has claimed to possess, a Doctorate other than the Ansted one - which is both honorary and unaccredited: two reasons why it would not gain her a professorship at Clarkson.

I have read all the Clarkson (and other sites) information on Ms. Barry and I saw no mention of a doctorate other than the one from Ansted. If I have missed something, or she has such a credential that was not mentioned, then again, I offer her my sincere apology and we're back to square 1.

As far as being a visiting professor at Suzuka National College of Technology, nothing here strikes me as unusual. Here in Canada, we normally refer to our technical college instructors as professors, although there is a fairly wide gap between the academic qualifications needed to instruct at a technical college and those required to lecture at University. Many instructors at technical colleges (here) would have no more than a bachelor's degree. Some have master's degrees and yes- you'll find some doctorates, but they're pretty few where I'm sitting right now - at our local college - which has over 10,000 full-time students. All these instructors do have, of course, in addition to their academic standing, experience and knowledge both broad and deep in their technical fields.

I'm pretty sure - but not positive - that the same university/college difference may apply in Japan. If it does, it would make perfect sense for a college of technology to appoint someone of Ms. Barry's obvious competence as a visiting professor, whether or not she has an accredited doctorate.

Tony, I hope this suffices. Ms. Barry, or Dr. Barry, if she prefers the credential that Ansted has conferred on her, is obviously a person of considerable knowledge and ability - but I'm getting tired of discussing Ansted itself as a school. THAT case is STILL closed. Please talk to the "Cold Squad" if you want this solved case re-opened - and that squad doesn't include "Supt. Johann of the Mill Police!" Thanks! :-)

Johann

[tony_ramos]

I have read all the Clarkson (and other sites) information on Ms. Barry and I saw no mention of a doctorate other than the one from Ansted. If I have missed something, or she has such a credential that was not mentioned, then again, I offer her my sincere apology and we're back to square 1.
Hi Johann,
In fact she got a earned doctorate degree. Below is her qualification:

"Barry has a B.A. in chemistry and science education from SUNY Potsdam, a Ph.D. in science education from Columbia Pacific University and an M.S. in chemistry from Clarkson."

If you do not believe, you can refer to below link:
http://www.clarkson.edu/news/print.php?id=73

Other link that relate to her qualification:
http://www.rae.org/cpu.html

However the question here is not the qualification of Prof. Dr. Barry but if Ansted University is a diploma mill or degree mill or not?
If Ansted is a mill, I would think Prof. Dr. Barry would not associate her name with it.

In fact in her latest book, she also did mention about her association with Ansted. You can see this book in below link?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/160247074X/ref=sib_dp_pt/102-1650776-3652141#reader-link

What is your comment?

[johann]

Hi

As I said before, I don't believe Ms. Barry holds an accredited, earned Doctorate. It's just a fact - I do not hold it against her, in any way! I don't have one, either!

I missed the degree she earned from Columbia Pacific, but that school was NEVER accredited. It was founded in 1978 as an UNACCREDITED correspondence school. California denied it a State License and it was closed amid fines and litigation in Dec. 1999. Here's the link. http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/News/cpu.html

So - Ms. Barry has an excellent education to the Master's level, from unimpeachable sources. Why she wants the good school where she works (Clarkson) to know about the other stuff is HER business -not mine!

I do NOT like Ansted any better and the case is STILL closed. :-)

Johann

[tony_ramos]

Hi

As I said before, I don't believe Ms. Barry holds an accredited, earned Doctorate. It's just a fact - I do not hold it against her, in any way! I don't have one, either!

I missed the degree she earned from Columbia Pacific, but that school was NEVER accredited. It was founded in 1978 as an UNACCREDITED correspondence school. California denied it a State License and it was closed amid fines and litigation in Dec. 1999. Here's the link. http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/News/cpu.html

So - Ms. Barry has an excellent education to the Master's level, from unimpeachable sources. Why she wants the good school where she works (Clarkson) to know about the other stuff is HER business -not mine!

I do NOT like Ansted any better and the case is STILL closed. :-)

Johann

Hi Johann,
I'm still not convienced by you that Ansted is a mill. You can see below link which indiacte that Prof. Dr. Roger Haw is one of the faculty members in
http://www.isbm.nl/resources.htm

[johann]

Hi Tony -

It's up to you. Stay unconvinced if you want. No skin off my nose!

What I DO know is this:

Ansted: totally unaccredited
ISBM: Also unaccredited -see my posting on how much their ...er "accreditation" means!

By the way, I note one of ISBM's other Prof. Drs - not Baron Prof. Dr. Sir Roger - hails from the equally unaccredited Preston University, formerly of Wyoming, which state now has a law requiring a school to accredit or move on... Preston recruits aggressively in Asia.

I fail to see how such "interlocking doctorate" affiliations make ANY of these um.."schools" any better! "Birds of a feather," IMO.

Prof. Dr. Lord Viscount Johann, Grand Ph. D., Knight Commander of Omsk, Tomsk, Minsk Pinsk Tobolsk and Norilsk :-) :-) :-)

[tony_ramos]

Hi Tony -

It's up to you. Stay unconvinced if you want. No skin off my nose!

What I DO know is this:

Ansted: totally unaccredited
ISBM: Also unaccredited -see my posting on how much their ...er "accreditation" means!

By the way, I note one of ISBM's other Prof. Drs - not Baron Prof. Dr. Sir Roger - hails from the equally unaccredited Preston University, formerly of Wyoming, which state now has a law requiring a school to accredit or move on... Preston recruits aggressively in Asia.

I fail to see how such "interlocking doctorate" affiliations make ANY of these um.."schools" any better! "Birds of a feather," IMO.

Prof. Dr. Lord Viscount Johann, Grand Ph. D., Knight Commander of Omsk, Tomsk, Minsk Pinsk Tobolsk and Norilsk :-) :-) :-)

Ansted University appoints Stephen Gill as Poet Laureate and honors him with a doctorate for his poetry on world peace

http://www.authorsden.com/visit/viewPoetry.asp?AuthorID=6206
http://www.stephengill.ca/ansted.htm
http://www.writeonspeakers.com/view.php?id=36


John Kersey has established a distinctive profile in both music and education. Please also refer to the pages dealing with his work in music and work in education for more detail on each area. Information on his work in ministry can be found on the website for The Liberal Rite.
http://www.johnkersey.org/bio.html

[johann]

Hi Tony

Yes - I've seen all that before (and discussed it) when I first read the Ansted site. You are obviously NOT getting the message!!

AGAIN - I am NOT diminishing the accomplishments of Stephen Gill, Dana Barry, John Kersey, Dr. Kenneth Paprock or ANY OTHER person honoured by Ansted when I say this. They are all remarkable people, I'm sure.

BUT - although giving out these honours MAY give this school 15 minutes of fame and limelight and be a good recognition gimmick it does NOT make Ansted a better school.

If I cooked up some "institution" and managed to "con" say, Nelson Mandela and Bill Gates into accepting honours - would that make my umm... "school" any better? No - but you can bet it would LOOK good for a little while, anyway!

Conferring TEN TONS of honorary degrees on accomplished people will NOT make Ansted one bit better or more valid, academically -although they might get some "friends in high places." Case closed - never re-opened it, actually!

By the way, I was gonna recant a little on my Preston tirade of yesterday, but NOT NOW. I was slightly off-base when I said "formerly of Wyoming" but not far off! They've moved their "World Headquarters" to ALABAMA where the Wyoming law doesn't apply - but opened a NEW school - Fairmount (same founder, Basit and Chancellor, Haenisch) which maintains a presence in Wyoming. Preston is active in Asia as I said, with presences in Islamabad and Cambodia. Here's a wiki on 'em:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preston_University

Johann

[cheer37]

My friend in Malaysia just send the the photos of so-called Ansted University. It is located at the outskirt of an industrial park. There is not person at the premises.

It seem like a place for maildrop!

[johann]

Hi -

I wonder why they have bars on the door - to keep students from escaping or to keep inquisitive authorities OUT? And no sign saying Ansted University, that I could see.

I think you have it right, Cheer37 - a maildrop for sure! Cheers :-)

Johann

[tony_ramos]

My friend in Malaysia just send the the photos of so-called Ansted University. It is located at the outskirt of an industrial park. There is not person at the premises.

It seem like a place for maildrop!

Hello Cheer,
Oh my god!
Are you sure this is Ansted University office?
Are you just kidding only????:confused:

[tony_ramos]

Very curious and suspicious

... where did Roger Haw earned his "PhD"?
... did anyone know which country conferred him the "Baron" title?
... did anyone know who knight him the "Sir" title?
... did anyone know which university appoint him the "Professorship"?

Or, are all these titles are FAKE?

Hi Cheer37,
I managed to get some information about PROFESSOR DR. ROGER HAW's qualification from a Singaporean friend who has now quit Ansted:

PROFESSOR DR. ROGER HAW's EDUCATION AND QUALIFICATIONS:

1) Ph.D (2000), The Open International University for Complementary Medicines (chartered by United Nations and in collaboration with the United Nations Peace University)

2) PhD (International Marketing)Universite Francophone Internationale, Belgium

3) MBA major in International Marketing and Strategic Management (1996), Trinity University, USA.

4) Life Underwriting Training Council (Financial Planning/Insurance), USA (1994)

5) Diploma in International Relations, Institute for International Relations & Intercultural Studies of Alabama A & M University (USA)

Seemed like he has two doctorate degrees. Can anyone validate those degrees he obtained are from genuine universities?:rolleyes:

[cheer37]

Hello Cheer,
Oh my god!
Are you sure this is Ansted University office?
Are you just kidding only????:confused:


I am not kidding. Here is the photo of the road sign i.e. 6 Lorong Nagasari 3!


Office Address in Malaysia:

No.6, Lorong Nagasari 3,
Taman Nagasari Industrial Park,
13600 Penang.
Malaysia.

http://www.ansteduniversity.org/Contact/Contact.html

[tony_ramos]

I am not kidding. Here is the photo of the road sign i.e. 6 Lorong Nagasari 3!


Office Address in Malaysia:

No.6, Lorong Nagasari 3,
Taman Nagasari Industrial Park,
13600 Penang.
Malaysia.

http://www.ansteduniversity.org/Contact/Contact.html

I can see a tidy board showing "Lorong Nagasari 3,", but I believe "No.6" is the Block No., can you show us the photo inside his office? And if possible with Prof. Dr. Haw inside the photo.

[cheer37]

I can see a tidy board showing "Lorong Nagasari 3,", but I believe "No.6" is the Block No., can you show us the photo inside his office? And if possible with Prof. Dr. Haw inside the photo.

I just call my friend who stay in Penang, Malaysia and they said the so-called Ansted University premises alway closed and nobody there.

It could be a place for maildrop! There is no signboard "Ansted University" in front of the premises and it is locate at rather outskirt location.

[johann]

Hi

We had a thread on OIUCM about a year ago. This is the ummm- "school" which ADMITTED that the founder and his associates had sold doctorates for years. (About $8-900 U.S.) They have zero government recognition in their native country Sri Lanka. Lots of "Prof. Dr. Sirs" here, as they sold made-up KNIGHTHOODS for an extra $400 or so...and sold "Albert Schweitzer prizes" for about $400 too.

Look 'em up on the net and you'll find ALL KINDS of people who got in trouble using degrees from this school - from U.S. chiropractors to people trying to get professorships at Indian Universities.

I kinda thought "Baron Prof. Dr. Sir Roger" might be an OIUCM grad from his overblown uh.."credentials." Nice work, verifying this! :-)

Johann

[tony_ramos]

I just call my friend who stay in Penang, Malaysia and they said the so-called Ansted University premises alway closed and nobody there.

It could be a place for maildrop! There is no signboard "Ansted University" in front of the premises and it is locate at rather outskirt location.

In Ansted Website, I can see the library in the building:
http://www.ansteduniversity.org/Ansted%20University%20Asia%20Regional%20Service%20 Center/Ansted_University_Asia_Regional_Service_Center.htm l
This is fake too?:confused:

[cheer37]

In Ansted Website, I can see the library in the building:
http://www.ansteduniversity.org/Ansted%20University%20Asia%20Regional%20Service%20 Center/Ansted_University_Asia_Regional_Service_Center.htm l
This is fake too?:confused:

The photo could be a fake! There is a date in the photo and it seem taken on 2001.

[cheer37]

In Ansted Website, I can see the library in the building:
http://www.ansteduniversity.org/Ansted%20University%20Asia%20Regional%20Service%20 Center/Ansted_University_Asia_Regional_Service_Center.htm l
This is fake too?:confused:

Ansted has printed the United Nation crest at it prospectus (http://www.ansteduniversity.org/Ansted%20University%20Publication/Prospectus.pdf#1-Prospectus.pdf). Did United Nation has anything to do with Ansted University?

Ansted does not has any physical present in British Virgin Island. They just has a rented a letter box (No 362) which was shared by hundreds of offshore companies. In their prospectus, they printed a large BVI building. Are they try to mislead potential students to believe that it is their BVI campus?

[johann]

Hi Cheer37, Tony and everyone -

Why are we still discussing Ansted?

I think we know ALL we need to! Ads with fake pictures of BUILDINGS that ...um, "Universities" don't really own are VERY common in the mill-market. The ones with the most nerve will sometimes hijack pictures of REAL schools and make illicit use of them. These don't even go to NEARLY that extent, however. All that was needed for the "library" picture was some steel shelving and books. You can borrow those ANYWHERE! The "Ansted" sign appears to be a painted cloth or paper banner, easily whipped up for what appears to be a graduation ceremony. That room could be ANYWHERE! A school, a hotel, etc. etc. I don't really care if it's real or fake -- doesn't alter my opinion one bit!

I think we ALL know what's happening here and we shouldn't waste any more time on the place. As far as the United Nations crest goes, that's probably close to the same category as a fake building picture. Years ago, quite a few "mills" managed to get themselves onto a U.N. (UNESCO, I think) list of universities, along with legit schools.

Being on that list has NOTHING to do with accreditation etc., but the mills all advertised it - thought it gave them some cachet that would bring in the bucks. They may/may not have SOME claim to the U.N. symbol if they (and other schools like them) are among those that have never been dropped from the list.

Concerning Baron Prof. Dr. Sir Roger Haw and his OTHER doctorate - there are some AWFUL "Trinities" out there. I'd imagine his degree came from these people or their predecessors. This one claims Spain as its home now - I believe the previous incarnation (same name - Trinity College and University) was based elsewhere. Same type of degree-for-cash operation. Probably two bogus doctorates, imo.

www.trinityeducation.com

C'MON GUYS - IT'S BEEN SEVEN PAGES, SO FAR! I COULDA GOT FIVE BOGUS DOCTORATES IN THIS TIME! LET'S MOVE ON! :-)

Johann

[tony_ramos]

Ansted has printed the United Nation crest at it prospectus (http://www.ansteduniversity.org/Ansted%20University%20Publication/Prospectus.pdf#1-Prospectus.pdf). Did United Nation has anything to do with Ansted University?

Ansted does not has any physical present in British Virgin Island. They just has a rented a letter box (No 362) which was shared by hundreds of offshore companies. In their prospectus, they printed a large BVI building. Are they try to mislead potential students to believe that it is their BVI campus?

Hi Cheer,
If you read carefully somewhere in Ansted's website, the state something like
"........He (Prof. Dr. Haw) has international exposure and experiences in various aspects which were highly recognised by UNESCO, World Bank, European Commission, Institutions, NGOs, Corporations, Government agencies in various countries and Ansted University community at large. .."

I guess this is the reason why UNESCO allows its logo to be used by Ansted.:mrgreen:

[tony_ramos]

Hi Cheer37, Tony and everyone -

Why are we still discussing Ansted?

I think we know ALL we need to! Ads with fake pictures of BUILDINGS that ...um, "Universities" don't really own are VERY common in the mill-market. The ones with the most nerve will sometimes hijack pictures of REAL schools and make illicit use of them. These don't even go to NEARLY that extent, however. All that was needed for the "library" picture was some steel shelving and books. You can borrow those ANYWHERE! The "Ansted" sign appears to be a painted cloth or paper banner, easily whipped up for what appears to be a graduation ceremony. That room could be ANYWHERE! A school, a hotel, etc. etc. I don't really care if it's real or fake -- doesn't alter my opinion one bit!

I think we ALL know what's happening here and we shouldn't waste any more time on the place. As far as the United Nations crest goes, that's probably close to the same category as a fake building picture. Years ago, quite a few "mills" managed to get themselves onto a U.N. (UNESCO, I think) list of universities, along with legit schools.

Being on that list has NOTHING to do with accreditation etc., but the mills all advertised it - thought it gave them some cachet that would bring in the bucks. They may/may not have SOME claim to the U.N. symbol if they (and other schools like them) are among those that have never been dropped from the list.

Concerning Baron Prof. Dr. Sir Roger Haw and his OTHER doctorate - there are some AWFUL "Trinities" out there. I'd imagine his degree came from these people or their predecessors. This one claims Spain as its home now - I believe the previous incarnation (same name - Trinity College and University) was based elsewhere. Same type of degree-for-cash operation. Probably two bogus doctorates, imo.

www.trinityeducation.com

C'MON GUYS - IT'S BEEN SEVEN PAGES, SO FAR! I COULDA GOT FIVE BOGUS DOCTORATES IN THIS TIME! LET'S MOVE ON! :-)

Johann

This is the onformation I got from my friend who quit Ansted.
[Note: Dr. John, he is admin staff of Ansted; I, my=Prof. Dr. Haw; You=friend who quit]

"I think Dr. John is proud of my profile that is the reason he said to you this matter. usually I do not review this matter as people may think otherwise. Anyway since you know about this matter I hereby let you know who are the well known persons approved and signed my Professorship appointment many years ago.

Prof. Arvid Carlsson, Nobel Prize in Medicine (Sweden)
Prof. Bernard Lown, Nobel Prize in Peace (USA)
Prof. Eugene Chazov, Nobel Prize in Peace (Russia)
Prof. Richard Roberts, Nobel Prize in Physiology (USA)
Prof. Tuihiro Matsuura, Vice President of Academy of Hiroshima University (Japan)
There are another 6 academicians from six countries consented my appointment.:cool:

[johann]

Hi -

I quickly checked 3 of the 6 names. They are the real item - Nobel Prize winners all and people of exceptional accomplishments.

The mad Roman Emperor, Caligula, once appointed his horse as a Consul. Now you're telling me that six perfectly sane, famed scholars appointed Baron Prof. Dr. Sir Roger as a Professor? I simply don't believe it!

I doubt they EVER signed anything that could be even remotely considered an "appointment of professorship" for "Baron Prof. Dr. Sir Roger Haw." Why would they? These are NOT people who could be easily hoodwinked. I doubt it's even a case of someone (Baron Prof. Dr. Sir Roger?) shoving a paper under noses at a conference. These are real Nobel Prize winners - I don't think they are folks who would readily sign something unless they were keenly aware of the contents.

And why would ANY of these esteemed scholars and famed practitioners appoint ANYONE to a university with which they were in no way associated? It boggles the mind. Nah... probably never happened, in my opinion. Means very little to me, even if someone made a mistake and DID sign!

Also, I'm bothered by the "many years ago." How could this man have been elevated to this high academic status so long ago - I don't believe he's more than about forty years of age today! He'd barely have had time to acquire his two bogus (imo) doctorates when these GENUINE Nobel Prize-winners appointed him a professor at a University with which they had no previous connection? What a ...um ...er "prodigy!"

Let's stop wasting time "investigating" these stories, Tony. There's nothing at the bottom of the pile for either of us!!

Johann

[highlander]

Ansted is not accredited by the Malaysian government. Physically doesnt exist - similar to Irish International University.

[johann]

Hi

I'm somewhat familiar with the history of Irish International and I agree - there are many similarities with Ansted - and that's NOT a good thing!

If they both "physically don't exist," as you put it --then that's very good news indeed. Good riddance to both ummm..."schools." :-)

Johann

[highlander]

This "uni" is located in Penang Island (northern Malaysia) using P.O. Box as its postal address. No campus. You can even use an unaccredited/fake degree to pursue your studies at PhD level at Ansted.

I live in Malaysia so I know very well abt this Ansted Uni.

[tony_ramos]

This "uni" is located in Penang Island (northern Malaysia) using P.O. Box as its postal address. No campus. You can even use an unaccredited/fake degree to pursue your studies at PhD level at Ansted.

I live in Malaysia so I know very well abt this Ansted Uni.

From this forum, the person behind Ansted is Prof. Dr Roger Haw.
I'm still think it is really incrediable that one of the Clarkson University faculty member who serves as the president of Ansted. She is Dr. Barry.
According to her that Ansted is a reputable & respected university.
She also mentions that Prof. Dr. Roger Haw is a genius!
So is Ansted fake & Prof. Dr. Roger Haw is genuine? :confused:
Below is the link
http://people.clarkson.edu/~dmbarry/

[johann]

Hi

How long does this thread have to get?

If you've read all 8 pages, you'd know where Baron Professor Dr. Sir Roger Haw got all his umm..."titles" and um..."doctorates" from and you'd decide for yourself.

Yes - Baron. Prof. Dr. Sir Roger himself is real, as far as I know. I've at least seen a couple of pictures of him. As to his degrees, titles etc. I'll let you make up your own mind as to what you consider "real" or "fake" -- as you should be able to do very quickly if you've read what's in this forum.

None of this takes away from Clarkson, which has a fine reputation. If one of their technical writers (not faculty, as far as I know) wants to accept an appointment from Ansted and say good things about it, so be it.

Now...let's move on!

Johann

[tony_ramos]

:rolleyes: Hi

How long does this thread have to get?

If you've read all 8 pages, you'd know where Baron Professor Dr. Sir Roger Haw got all his umm..."titles" and um..."doctorates" from and you'd decide for yourself.

Yes - Baron. Prof. Dr. Sir Roger himself is real, as far as I know. I've at least seen a couple of pictures of him. As to his degrees, titles etc. I'll let you make up your own mind as to what you consider "real" or "fake" -- as you should be able to do very quickly if you've read what's in this forum.

None of this takes away from Clarkson, which has a fine reputation. If one of their technical writers (not faculty, as far as I know) wants to accept an appointment from Ansted and say good things about it, so be it.

Now...let's move on!

Johann


Hi Johann,
See yourself about Prof. Dr. Dana's infor on Ansted's website:
http://www.ansteduniversity.org/Contact/Contact.html

So again if Ansted really is a diploma mill & Prof. Dr. Roger Haw is fake, why would Prof. Dr. Dana is willing to take the risk to be the president of scientific board for Asnted University (UK)? This would definitely tarnish her reputation in Clarkson. When you check at Amazon, you can see one of her books (Develop Critical Thinking Skills, Solve a Mystery, Learn Science: Creative Science Using Two Mystery Stories) clearly states about Ansted University.

See below link:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/160247074X/ref=sib_dp_pt/103-1775167-1203854#reader-link

So far, this question is still unanswered.:rolleyes:

[johann]

Hi Tony -

I refuse to waste more time on this moronic, picayune issue. You first asked is Baron Prof. Dr Sir Roger is "fake or real." I gave you some pointers. Then you asked if Ansted was a mill. I gave you more pointers.

Now you ask why Dana Barry would accept an Ansted appointment? WHY WOULD I CARE? WHY DO YOU CARE? The school where she works (not as faculty) is a fine one. She's a free person and can do pretty much as she likes -she's NOT a professor at Clarkson! How many time do you have to be told -- she is NOT faculty there - she's a technical writer! Why would something like this (not illegal in any way), done on her own time, be any of her employer's business?

Summary:

SHE CAN DO AS SHE LIKES, WITH OR WITHOUT OUR APPROVAL. IT'S NONE OF OUR BUSINESS!
BARON PROF SIR DR ROGER CAN DO AS HE LIKES, TOO!
CLARKSON IS A GOOD SCHOOL.

I flat don't care about Ansted. This has gotten silly!

Johann

[tony_ramos]

Hi,
I'm still not sure If Anstead is fake.
See below links for some of Anstead's activities:
http://www.coe.tamu.edu/international/paprock/pages/asia.htm



This "uni" is located in Penang Island (northern Malaysia) using P.O. Box as its postal address. No campus. You can even use an unaccredited/fake degree to pursue your studies at PhD level at Ansted.

I live in Malaysia so I know very well abt this Ansted Uni.

[johann]

Hi -

How long are you going to beat this dead horse, Tony?

This site isn't about Ansted. It's a Texas A&M site about Dr. Paprock, a Texas A&M professor, who - I think, anyway - should have known better than to get mixed up with Ansted.

The only Ansted connection is Prof. Paprock speaking there (rented facilities?) to promote his book and accepting an honorary degree. (It could come back to haunt him, if you ask me!) The rest of the page is pictures of Prof. Paprock at other school ceremonies, in India, Kazakhstan etc.

Ansted - if it exists - is no better than when we last discussed it. I think we can take Highlander's word for it - he lives in Malaysia.

I have no idea why you still have faith in Ansted OR "Prof. Dr. Baron Sir" Roger Haw! Are you related? Did you send Ansted your entire savings? Does the school pay you a commission?

...I just don't understand it.... and I won't even try any more. I'm tired of this and want to talk about GOOD schools!

Johann

[tony_ramos]

Hi Johann,
So far, the comments that I received from you are all "negative".
However, you still could not prove that Anstead University is a diploma mill or degree mill. :rolleyes:

What I wanted to say to you that there are many great sites/people who associated with Anstead University.

Look at below links::-P
http://home.ican.net/~sgill/SOME%20SIGNIFICANT%20EVENTS.htm

https://aktuell.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/agp/free/dams/narmada/peaceday.htm

http://clarkson.edu/news/view.php?id=80



Hi -

...I just don't understand it.... and I won't even try any more. I'm tired of this and want to talk about GOOD schools!

Johann

[JohnDoe]

[QUOTE=tony_ramos;6767]Hi Johann,
So far, the comments that I received from you are all "negative".
However, you still could not prove that Anstead University is a diploma mill or degree mill. :rolleyes:

[\QUOTE]

As far as I can see, Johann has proven his point related to the illegitimacy of Anstead over and over again.......... and over and over again.... and over and over again......

[PsyDWannaBe]

Hi Johann,
So far, the comments that I received from you are all "negative".
However, you still could not prove that Anstead University is a diploma mill or degree mill. :rolleyes:

What I wanted to say to you that there are many great sites/people who associated with Anstead University.

Look at below links::-P
http://home.ican.net/~sgill/SOME%20SIGNIFICANT%20EVENTS.htm

https://aktuell.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/agp/free/dams/narmada/peaceday.htm

http://clarkson.edu/news/view.php?id=80

Anstead University is a diploma mill, but you don't have to view that as negative if you don't want too...

[max]

alex weiss06 and those who are not convinecd that roger haw is a fraud,

wake up alex! how old are you? don't you know that baron is a title that not anyone can have. it comes from england and you have to have generations of families dating back to queen elizabeth 1 time who have served the monarch then to have such titles. such titles are not for sale!

since roger haw does not appear like a caucasian male to me and nor do i think he has generations of families staying in england for the past 600 years serving the monarchy then, so i would be very inclined to believe that his baronship is a fake.

prof sir roger haw is a penang boy. back in the nineties, he was indicted in a malaysian court of law for operating an illegal pyramid selling scam.
He was found guilty and fined rm250,000 ! in other words, he is a conman. check the papers of the early nineties. i can't remember precisely the year.

in his early days, he worked as an insurance salesman. he made some bucks. how much i don't know. he donated some of it to ansted u, which then made him a co-founder.
his job is to go around raising funds for ansted's coffers, which i believe a certain percentage goes to him and the pockets of his partners.

in the late nineties, he tried to con the penang government to give up a large piece of land in balik pulau for ansted un to be set on the island. he was good enough to get the deputy chief minister at that time to attend his function.
but eventually i think he was exposed and the government saved a piece of land. afterwards the ministry of higher education blacklisted ansted.

roger haw obtain his baron title from a small town in uk. the title is sold as an april fool joke to celebrate april fool's day in that town.
i can't remember the name of the town now.

roger haw has also frequently told those who believe in him that he has been invited to see bush --yes the george bush of the usa-together with koffi annan, the former un sec-gen.
he has told people that bush was keen to meet brilliant people like him from malaysia.

[max]

http://www.richardbooth.demon.co.uk/haypeerage/index.htm

roger haw bought his baron title from richard booth of hay on wye, a town in wales.
hay on wye is a town famous for its antiquarian bookshops.

since 1977, richard booth has been selling such titles. it started out as a prank but in the end became sort of tourism event for the town. you can still purchase titles from richard booth today with credit cards or cheques.

roger haw was amongst richard booth's earliest client. haw's name used to be listed in booth's webpage for selling titles.

go on. check out the link above.

besides the baron title, haw has also said he has received knightships from spain and poland. thus haw, the penang boy, has more knightships than any of the famous people in the world today.
haw simply does not understand the significance of titles--those that can be inherited from generations of families, those that cannot be inherited, and those that are granted by queen elizabeth ll for work done to promote certain causes.
paul mccartney, elton john, and alec guinness received their knightships from queen elizabeth ll because of their work in the music and cinema.
haw does not understand these distinctions and he doesn't care because of his poor education.
but we, who are more learned than haw, do care.
haw is a megalomaniac, who thinks people can easily be fooled.

my friend was one of those who testify in his court case. that is how i know he was indicted and fined.

the reason why the malaysian police has yet to take action against haw is because so far no one has officially lodged a complaint against him yet.

those who paid haw did so willingly because they wanted his mill degrees.

it is becoming a trend in malaysia today, very unfortunately, for people in the corporate circle to buy doctoral degrees.
some of these degrees which they buy are honorary phds, which cannot be used officially.
in canada and usa, no one uses such honorary titles from universities, because they know the difference between an honorary degree and an academic degree.
honorary phds are given out to people by a university for their contribution to a certain field or to the university concerned.

in malaysia, you are seeing more and more businessmen who can't even speak or write english properly with such phds. haw was one of the early malaysians who bought his degrees.
then there are those malaysians who buy academic phd degrees and use the title dr.
Using academic or honorary titles which you did not earn is wrong. The intention is no other than to mislead and to gain people's confidence in a dishonest way.

[tony_ramos]

Hi MAX,
I do not know if your claim is valid or not.

My understanding ANSTED UNIVERSITY is an UK institution as mentioned in the website. And I heard that Prof. DR. Roger Haw is one of the faculty members.

Prof. Dr. Roger Haw have written many technical articles such as below:
A Measure of Wealth
http://www.trans4mind.com/counterpoint/haw2.shtml
He also wrote book chapter 12 (page vi)
Perspectives on Corporate Social Responsibility (Corporate Social Responsibility Series)

See below link:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0754638863/ref=sib_dp_pt/102-7184837-9728167#reader-link

In additional ANSTED is an accrediated institution by WIDU.
See below link:
http://www.widu.be/accreditation_ansted_university

Another faculty member is Prof. Dana Barry from Clarkson University who is PRESIDENT of Ansted University's Scientific Board.
See below link:
http://people.clarkson.edu/~dmbarry/

So it is hard to believe that neither Ansted is a diploma mill nor Prof. Dr. Roger Haw is fake.


http://www.richardbooth.demon.co.uk/haypeerage/index.htm

those who paid haw did so willingly because they wanted his mill degrees.

it is becoming a trend in malaysia today, very unfortunately, for people in the corporate circle to buy doctoral degrees.
some of these degrees which they buy are honorary phds, which cannot be used officially.
in canada and usa, no one uses such honorary titles from universities, because they know the difference between an honorary degree and an academic degree.
honorary phds are given out to people by a university for their contribution to a certain field or to the university concerned.

in malaysia, you are seeing more and more businessmen who can't even speak or write english properly with such phds. haw was one of the early malaysians who bought his degrees.
then there are those malaysians who buy academic phd degrees and use the title dr.
Using academic or honorary titles which you did not earn is wrong. The intention is no other than to mislead and to gain people's confidence in a dishonest way.

[Dennis Ruhl]

Accredited by WIDU. That is totally GRAND. I think WIDU along with their Grand PhDs is more questionable than Ansted.

I have seen some WIDU doctorates appear in record short time. Really smart people or really easy programs?? The people hid their intelligence well.

I think there may be something to Ansted. There may very well be real programs and they may serve some people well. I am proud of a couple unaccredited degrees I earned but I'm not sure about Ansted.

.

[max]

tony ramos,

well, believe what you want.

i am telling you what i know.

no point in arguing about the matter.

if you read haw's message in ansted hompage and can't realise there is something wrong with his qualifications, then i don't know what to say.
the first give away is haw's horrendous english. even my 12 year old niece writes better.

since you have faith in haw, you should enrol in ansted and obtain a degree from him.
better still engage haw as your thesis supervisor.


you should go ahead, obtain a degree from ansted, instead of telling people how credible ansted is.

if a penang boy tells you that he has three knightships, going to visit bush, a record of conviction for fraud, plus the fact that, as a professor, he can't even write his way out of a notebook, and you still find him ok, then i don't know what to say.

[tony_ramos]

Hi Max,
What I heard from you are "negative" and without any reference about your claim.
For me I found "Ansted & Prof Roger Haw" are very interesting and amazing that make me a lot of surprise.

So far, all the negative comments only from you or Cheer37 and also this online degree forum.

I have never heard from their student complain about Ansted or Prof. Roger Haw. In fact one of the graduate from Ansted that make a big name in motivating field. He is DR. HM TUAH ISKANDAR al-Haj
http://www.drtuah.com/anugerah.html

The other one is Dr. Donald Yap Tatt Keat whose thesis entitled
“Entrepreneurship Management Through Total Quality Management Application”
http://www.ansteduniversity.org/ansted_university/Ansted%20University%20Degree%20Programme/Research_&_Thesis_done_by_au.pdf

http://www.eoy.com.my/master02.php

So far I could find are all positive about Ansted.
See below link:
http://www.space-explorers.com/internal/events/clarkson2004.html
If Ansted is mill & Prof. Haw is fake, why would Dr Dana of Clarkson University (accreadited) would she presents an Outstanding Achievement Award to him for his excellent work on the MarsLink Mission. Do you think Dr. Dana is three years old girl????

Hey friend, please so not simply critize people or institution without facts/proof becuase you will tarnish their reputation. Ansted is uncrediated college but I guess it is fine as long as lt is not a diploma mill like you claim.



tony ramos,

well, believe what you want.

i am telling you what i know.

no point in arguing about the matter.

[max]

tony ramos,

either way it doesn't matter to me.

this forum started off with people wanting to know who is roger haw and what is ansted university about.

you also posted questions about ansted and roger haw.

so don't expect only positive comments about ansted.

if you have already made up your mind about roger haw and ansted and are impressed, then there is no need to query further.

cheers37 and johann have presented very valid views about ansted, but you chose to ignore them.

i share what i know about roger haw and ansted also.

i have also presented valid claims about roger haw and his baron title.

just go and google the buying of titles and you will find many sites explaining to you what such titles mean.
it is just impossible for haw to have a legitimate baron title.

you can also go and check with the malaysian court of law to see whether a certain roger haw from penang was indicted for pyramid scam in the nineties.

you don't have to believe.

if you really have faith in ansted university, then you should enrol and obtain a degree from there like Dr Donald Yap Tatt Keat.

By the way do you know who is he? have you read his thesis?

Never mind.

Those who paid money to ansted for degrees would never be able to get real and genuine degrees from accredited universities, due simply to the fact that many of these people did not even pass high school or bright enough to enter into a graduate degree programme of a proper university.
Schools like ansted is their last hope.
so why would ansted students complain about ansted.

as i say, tony ramos, don't just tell me that ansted is a credible institution.
do it. enrol yourself with ansted and get a degree from there.

we, who do not believe in ansted, has the right to stay away from it.

you, who believe in ansted, has every right to attend the school.

so go now.

its time to sign off on this ansted discussion.

topic closed.

good luck to your career.

[max]

found this write up in the net.

stephen j. arnett, one of the main figure of discussion in the story obtained his medical degree from the open international university for complementary medicine in colombo, where roger haw also got his doctorate.

check the story on doctored diplomas and stephen arnett at this link:

http://www.kentucky.com/428/story/104053.html

arnett's qualifications are stated below the story. notice that the open international university for complementary medicines is listed as one of the school where arnett got his medical degree.

Credentials Arnett has claimed

Stephen J. Arnett of Magoffin County has presented himself as a man of many degrees and titles. This is a description posted on the St. Luke School of Medicine Web site around 2002-2003:

* M.D., N.M.D. (Medical Doctor, Naturopathy Medical Doctor)

* Vice president, St. Luke School of Medicine

* Director, public relations, student loan programs at St. Luke

* Director of alternative education and research at St. Luke

* President, Southern Graduate Institute of Naturopathic Medicine, Kentucky

* Doctor of Medicine, Far Eastern University, Manila, Philippines

* M.D. (M.A.), Open International University for Complementary Medicine, Sri Lanka

* Diplomate, National Board of Naturopathic Examiners

* Senior Professor of Naturopathic Medicine: Alternative Medicines Research Institute, Vancouver, B.C., Canada; Clayton College of Natural Health, Birmingham, Alabama

* Indian Board of Alternative Medicine, Calcutta, India MD (AM)


http://www.chiroweb.com/archives/13/25/27.html ---check out this link also. it has a bit on columbia pacific university, where dr dana barry got her phd.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_Pacific_University ----also check this one out. columbia pacific university (CPU) where dana barry got a phd has been shut down. the link will tell you why.

the university is now called columbia commonwealth university. it is now located in wyoming and in malawi.



California recognizes CPU degrees earned before June 25, 1997 as "legally valid" for use in the state. CPU degrees earned on or after June 25, 1997 are "not legally valid" for use in California.[4] Michigan, for state civil service jobs only, does not accept degrees from CPU[18] Oregon lists degrees from both CPU and CCWU as "unaccredited degrees", and thus prohibited for various uses under Oregon law. The use of "unaccredited degrees" in violation of this prohibition can result in civil penalties.[19] Texas lists degrees from both CPU and CCWU as "fraudulent or substandard", and thus prohibited for various uses under Texas law. The use of "fraudulent or substandard" degrees in violation of this prohibition is a Class B misdemeanor in Texas.[20]

see the link provided on cpu.

[tony_ramos]

reference: http://www.ansteduniversity.org/ansted_foundation/profile_of_Prof_Dr._Roger_Haw.pdf



Prof. Dr. Roger Haw is the Founder cum Chairman of the First kind of World Book of Records with a Focus on Corporate Social Responsibility aspects ‘SRW RecordPedia’ and Founded the Ansted Social Responsibility International Award (ASRIA) to recognize those Corporations, NGOs and individuals around the world. The publication, which has been distributed to over 80 countries, includes commendable messages from four Nobel Prize Laureates. The ASRIA Awards are known by 187 member nations to UNESCO commissions. He has been enrolled into the data systems of the Division of Ethics of Science and Technology, Social and Human Sciences Sector, UNESCO as one of the ETHICS EXPERTS. Prof. Haw also serves as a Diplomat to the World Human Rights Service Council, USA to the United Nations. He has been selected as one of the International Biographical Centre, Cambridge, England TOP 100 EDUCATORS-2005-2007. This accolade is credited to those individuals who have fulfilled a standard of merit in the eyes of their peers that is beyond the norm. It is a lasting tribute to that which can be achieved by only a selected few for the benefit of many. He has co-authored several books and research papers in the areas of Corporate Social Responsibility, Learning Organizations, Culture & Peace and Distance/Virtual Learning Programmes which were published by various publishers in the UK, Europe, USA, India, Korea, Thailand, and Malaysia, etc. He is one of the youngest founding members of Ansted University, established in the British Virgin Islands, a private international open university with 40 affiliated campuses and training providers around the world with the support from more than 1,000 faculty members, scientists and researchers from more than 80 countries. He is also an Honorary Member of the Academic Board of Advisors and Board of Governors for 12 institutions in 12 countries.
Prof. Dr. Roger Haw has more than 20 years of experience in the area of customer service. Regularly invited by both local and Foreign Companies, Institutions, NGOs and Government agencies to talk about Customer Relationship Management (CRM) especially in the Food and Health care industries, Insurance Agencies, Institutions, Mail Order Businesses, Banking and Manufacturing related sectors.
As one of the Founding members of Ansted University, he has built up Ansted University from scratch to its present status of a multi-national institution with affiliated campuses in 40 countries. Presently he is supervising ten Doctorate degree programme researchers/scholars in CRM while serving as an Honorary Advisor for many institutions and organizations in several countries. He has been appointed by The Customer Care Institute, USA as an Honorary Advisory Customer Care Research Council member in 2006.
Altogether Prof. Dr. Roger Haw has achieved 77s various kinds of unique achievement records, Honorary Advisory Board appointment, fellowship, award recognition and honorary nobility order to recognize his contributions in the area of Insurance, Finance and Banking, Education, Humanity and voluntary services as well as nobility aspect such as “the first and only Malaysian to achieve this admirable international recognition since 1992” His achievements and contributions have been recognized by local and international companies, organizations, institutions and Royal family. In 2003, he received 5 Honorary Doctorate Degrees from 5 different countries of 5 Universities in a year.

found this write up in the net.

stephen j. arnett, one of the main figure of discussion in the story obtained his medical degree from the open international university for complementary medicine in colombo, where roger haw also got his doctorate.

[max]

i am very happy that you are convinced that ansted and roger haw are genuine.

i would be very sad if you believe as we do that ansted and roger haw are fake.

i came into the forum because there were questions asked about roger haw and ansted.

what i am curious to know is what is your motive?

you came here seeking answers about ansted, but seemed to be interested in only positive feedback on the school. when you take part in a forum, you are sure to find diverse views.

it seems that you are already very well informed about ansted and have very fixed opinions about the school.
so why bother to come into this forum posting queries?

from your threads, you seem to have the tendency to cast doubts on good and genuine universities and defend those that are highly questionable such as ansted.

are you doing this to annoy people? maybe you have no intention of finding out about tertiary education at all.

anyway, as i say, good luck to you, whatever your game is.

[tony_ramos]

Hi Max,
I don't have any motive. In fact before joining this forum, I have no idea about Ansted.

Since this topic was actively discussed so I just do some "googling" to find out more about Ansted & prof. roger haw.


So far what I found about them (Ansted & Roger Haw)are all positive despite some of you like Johann, cheer37 repeatedly claim he is fake and diploma mill.

You can see his name appears in many sites as below.

http://clarkson.edu/news/view.php?id=1924
http://www.dialtax.ca/home/UNESCO_forum.php
http://www.space-explorers.com/internal/events/clarkson2006.html


In fact MNC like Northport & NEC also associated with Ansted & prof. Roger Haw.
http://northport.com.my/news_view.asp?nid=%7B4644D146-8023-4416-A717-38A66E800427%7D

http://www.nec.co.jp/press/en/0411/2301.html

His name is also appeared in "NOMINATIONS FOR THE 2006 NORTH-SOUTH PRIZE OF THE COUNCIL OF EUROPE" along with other famous people like Her Majesty Queen Rania AL-ABDULLAH, Mr Koffi ANNAN, etc.
See below link:
http://www.coe.int/t/f/centre_nord-sud/programmes/7_prix_nord-sud/PNS06.asp

So is Ansted diploma mill & Prof. Dr. Haw is fake? Well, I don't think so.
One thing I know Ansted is unccrediated institution similar like Akamai, Revan, AHU but not a mill.







i am very happy that you are convinced that ansted and roger haw are genuine.

i would be very sad if you believe as we do that ansted and roger haw are fake.

i came into the forum because there were questions asked about roger haw and ansted.

what i am curious to know is what is your motive?

.

[JohnDoe]

Based on mr. Ramos' points of view related to Ansted, and his defending of the school and mr. Haw despite all evidence to the contrary, it would seem fair to postulate that mr. Ramos, in some way or the other, is connected to the "University", i.e. that he is on their payroll. Maybe even on the payroll of several unaccredited universities. Infiltrating discussion board seems to be a good way of promoting such universities, since discussion boards are visitited by potential clients.

His replies is very consistent with the "All Pr is good Pr" concept.

[tony_ramos]

I was very surprised that said I have connection with Ansted or Mr. Haw.
In fact I had clarified up front that I did not know anything about Ansted or Mr. Haw until Cheer37 posted this title on this forum.

Anyway, so far you, Cheer37, Johann, Max, highlander...who failed to provide any clear evidence in this forum to nail down that Ansted is a mill & Prof. Dr. Haw is fake. So far all your claims do not have any cross-reference or sources for validation.

In other hand, I managed to show you about Ansted & prof. dr. Haw's creditibilty and reputation which I included those links on this forum.

If you say Ansted is diploma mill, then I would say Akamai University & American Heritage university (AHU) are mill too. The only different that Ansted is founded by Malaysian & Akamai & AUH are founded by American.
All of these three institution do not have any physical campus, unaccreadited and are not reconized by local authority, actively operating in Malaysia .

Based on mr. Ramos' points of view related to Ansted, and his defending of the school and mr. Haw despite all evidence to the contrary, it would seem fair to postulate that mr. Ramos, in some way or the other, is connected to the "University", i.e. that he is on their payroll. Maybe even on the payroll of several unaccredited universities. Infiltrating discussion board seems to be a good way of promoting such universities, since discussion boards are visitited by potential clients.

His replies is very consistent with the "All Pr is good Pr" concept.

[max]

the arguments that roger haw and ansted are fake have been made in the previous threads.

no point in repeating them here again.

remember penang is a very small town. everyone knows everyone. roger haw boon hong is from penang, and there are many people who know who he is.
this is a fact he cannot run away from.

[tony_ramos]

He is the M.D for Protective packaging maker Ire-Tex Corporation Bhd

More about Dato Dr Donald Yap Tatt Keat, please below links:

http://www.eoy.com.my/master02.php
http://www.ey.com/Global/content.nsf/Malaysia/EOYTopNomineesAnnounced
http://www.theedgedaily.com/cms/content.jsp?id=com.tms.cms.article.Article_14b40f0 0-cb73c03a-1f682720-6d777dba

So MAX, are you doubt with his (Dato) creaditibility? He must be proud for being a doctorate gradute from Ansted University of UK BVI.:)




if you really have faith in ansted university, then you should enrol and obtain a degree from there like Dr Donald Yap Tatt Keat.

By the way do you know who is he? have you read his thesis?

Never mind.

[max]

you obviously want me to answer your question.

i am not going to, since all the feedback and opinions about ansted and roger haw have been posted in previous threads.

whatever you want to ask next, i suggest that you find the feedback in the previous threads.


wake up. even if you can persuade me to believe in roger haw and ansted, so what? there are still many people out there who will remain otherwise.

ansted and roger are both fakes. that is that. a true fact. people can 'entertain' you by agreeing with you, but that is not going to change anything about ansted or roger.
roger's reputation precedes himself, but not in a positive way though, unfortunately. this is his own doing. his karma.


and as i say, please refer back to the previous threads for whatever questions you want to raise next.


adios.

[tony_ramos]

In August 2001 Mr. Swamy was awarded Doctor of Science in Engineering (Honoris Causa) by Ansted University “in recognition of his exemplary contributions to the research in Electrical and Computer Engineering and to Engineering Education, as well as his dedication to the promotion of Signal Processing and Communications Applications”.

Source: http://users.encs.concordia.ca/~swamy/?S=A

If Ansted is a diploma mill, why would an famous formal prof. of Concordia would receive this award.

http://www.ee.ncku.edu.tw/Chinese/intro/global/swamy.htm

You can even contact his email at :swamy@ece.concordia.ca

Can you explain to board members?


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[Dennis Ruhl]

If Ansted is a diploma mill, why would an famous formal prof. of Concordia would receive this award.


Ignorance? He's an engineer, not an accreditation expert.

[johann]

Hi -

We discussed honorary degrees awarded to:

Dr. Swamy of Concordia
Dr. Kenneth Paprock of Texas A&M
Dana Barry, B.A. M.S. - a technical writer at Clarkson U.

Dana Barry has two RA degrees plus a Ph.D. from the unaccredited Columbia Pacific University, now closed.

ALL in the FIRST PAGES of this FRANKENTHREAD!

I made and closed the case then - or so I thought. Good people, from good schools. Publicity stunt by Roger Haw, for Ansted. Likely lack of knowledge of Ansted's reputation on part of the recipients. Same as Roger Haw's giving awards to genuine Nobel Prize laureates - 6 of them at last count! (I can hear them now - "Ansted who?")

As we said before - possible ignorance of recipients -and maybe a runaway ego or two - coupled with opportunistic prestige-by-association of Roger Haw.

Tony, if you want to persist with this Ansted junk, then tell us something we didn't know before. Why keep trundling out arguments that resemble an 89-year-old wino: never worked way back when and can't even hold water now? Say "hi" to your good friend (or relative?) Baron Prof. Dr. Sir Roger Haw for me! Has he conferred any honorary doctorates on you lately?

This whole thing is a farce - or worce!

Johann

[tony_ramos]

Hi friends, I have no connection to Ansted.
I just feel unfair because some of you have just given negative feedback without any evidences or proof.


Below are some news from clarkson alumni that associated with Ansted & Prof. Dr. Roger Haw

CLARKSON UNIVERSITY'S DANA BARRY VISITING PROFESSOR IN MALAYSIA
Senior Technical Writer Dana M. Barry of Clarkson University’s Center for Advanced Materials Processing served as a visiting professor in Penang, Malaysia, in December. In her capacity as scientific board president for Ansted University, she gave the opening address for the university’s special combination graduation/award ceremony held in Penang on December 6. Barry also had the honor of presenting awards to individuals and companies, located throughout the world, for displaying excellent corporate social responsibility. These outstanding corporate citizens received Ansted’s Social Responsibility International Award. This prestigious honor was created by Roger Haw, co-founder of Ansted University. It was established to help achieve a major goal of the university, which is to promote corporate social responsibility at the global level for world peace. Barry gave a presentation about her international program in creative education to the ceremony attendees and participants. She also gave a similar talk to students at the Chung Hwa Confucian Secondary School in Penang. Ansted presented Barry with a certificate of appreciation for her excellent program presentations. Her program, which is being carried out in collaboration with Hideyuki Kanematsu of Japan, has the main goals of turning students of all ages on to science and engineering and of preparing them to be critical thinkers and creative problem solvers. The program has sponsorship from the Northern New York section of the American Chemical Society and makes use of Barry’s and Kanematsu’s new creative science book Develop Critical Thinking Skills, Solve a Mystery, Learn Science published by Tate in 2007.

source:
http://www.clarksonalumni.com/stay_connected/newsletter/january2008web.html#3

Again if Ansted is a diploma mill & Prof. Dr.Roger Haw is fake, why would Clarkson would risk its reputation to associate with Ansted.

In addition Ansted also associates with world famous cotton college
http://www.cottoncollege.org/Education.htm

So, do you think Ansted is diploma mill? No right!

Hi -

We discussed honorary degrees awarded to:

Dr. Swamy of Concordia
Dr. Kenneth Paprock of Texas A&M
Dana Barry, B.A. M.S. - a technical writer at Clarkson U.

Dana Barry has two RA degrees plus a Ph.D. from the unaccredited Columbia Pacific University, now closed.

ALL in the FIRST PAGES of this FRANKENTHREAD!

I made and closed the case then - or so I thought. Good people, from good schools. Publicity stunt by Roger Haw, for Ansted. Likely lack of knowledge of Ansted's reputation on part of the recipients. Same as Roger Haw's giving awards to genuine Nobel Prize laureates - 6 of them at last count! (I can hear them now - "Ansted who?")

As we said before - possible ignorance of recipients -and maybe a runaway ego or two - coupled with opportunistic prestige-by-association of Roger Haw.

Tony, if you want to persist with this Ansted junk, then tell us something we didn't know before. Why keep trundling out arguments that resemble an 89-year-old wino: never worked way back when and can't even hold water now? Say "hi" to your good friend (or relative?) Baron Prof. Dr. Sir Roger Haw for me! Has he conferred any honorary doctorates on you lately?

This whole thing is a farce - or worce!

Johann

[cklapka]

It seems obvious to me that there is nothing else to be gained from this thread. The same information is continually posted and the same arguments rehashed. One side is posting the same position without reading or even commenting on the information provide by others. This threaded could go on for forever and new members investigating this school would waste time reading it is it entirety.

Kyle or ShotoJuku perhaps it is time to close/lock this thread.

[JohnDoe]

It seems obvious to me that there is nothing else to be gained from this thread. The same information is continually posted and the same arguments rehashed. One side is posting the same position without reading or even commenting on the information provide by others. This threaded could go on for forever and new members investigating this school would waste time reading it is it entirety.

Kyle or ShotoJuku perhaps it is time to close/lock this thread.

Yes, indeed. It would be very benficial to close this thread, since it is against "everything" that is thought in higher education, at least when it comes to presenting arguments, and altering ones opinions if other individuals arguments are more valid than those presented by oneself. Mr. Ramos is totally unwilling to accept any arguments, and is only repeating himself over and over again. If this thread was posted on other discussion boards, for example, degreediscussion.com, I believe mr. Ramos would be banned if he continued ignoring the relevant arguments presented by other board members. This board has been more than friendly when it comes to putting up with the continuing ignorance of valid arguments.

[johann]

About a week ago, I asked Mr. Ramos if I needed to ask for closure of the Almeda thread, for the same reason - repeated resurrection of ancient arguments.

ShotoJuku replied that he thought the thread should not be deleted, but be left open, "not for the crap and debate," as he put it, but so readers could see for themselves that the place (Almeda) was a mill.

I'm not asking anybody to delete ANYTHING - never did. But I sure agree with Cklapka and JohnDoe that this thread (AND the Almeda one, if possible) could stand being "frozen" to further posting!

Johann

[tony_ramos]

source: http://www.bethelinstitute.com/intro.html

She has worked on projects with four U.S. Presidents and has served on the adjunct faculties of Indiana-Purdue University, the University of Southern California, and San Francisco State University. She is currently on the Board of Advisors of the newly formed Ansted University in Malaysia. Her Ph.D. is in Communications.

Just curious if she works with US Presidents, why she wants to act as Board of Advisors of Ansted University if Ansted is a diploma mill? :confused:



About a week ago, I asked Mr. Ramos if I needed to ask for closure of the Almeda thread, for the same reason - repeated resurrection of ancient arguments.

ShotoJuku replied that he thought the thread should not be deleted, but be left open, "not for the crap and debate," as he put it, but so readers could see for themselves that the place (Almeda) was a mill.

I'm not asking anybody to delete ANYTHING - never did. But I sure agree with Cklapka and JohnDoe that this thread (AND the Almeda one, if possible) could stand being "frozen" to further posting!

Johann

[JohnDoe]

source: http://www.bethelinstitute.com/intro.html

She has worked on projects with four U.S. Presidents and has served on the adjunct faculties of Indiana-Purdue University, the University of Southern California, and San Francisco State University. She is currently on the Board of Advisors of the newly formed Ansted University in Malaysia. Her Ph.D. is in Communications.

Just curious if she works with US Presidents, why she wants to act as Board of Advisors of Ansted University if Ansted is a diploma mill? :confused:

There is no law of nature that says that a person who works with US Presidents can't make mistakes.......

[scaredrain]

There is no law of nature that says that a person who works with US Presidents can't make mistakes.......

I agree wasnt it found out not too long ago that some high ranking federal employees and presidential appointees had degrees from degree mills and unaccredited institutions?

Its up to anyone who wants to be apart of an unaccredited or diploma mill institution, and such schools at time will otain faculty with high qualifications in order to appear to be legit.

[mark.dason]

May be a list can help you to answer our questions. Look at this list:
http://www.distance-learning-college-guide.com/accredited-online-colleges.html;)

[johann]

Mark -

Every day, we get people like you, struggling to make a buck or two, "seeding" threads in this forum with these ADVERTISING lists! Lord, what a waste of time and bandwidth!

MODERATORS! Kyle! ShotoJuku! ANOTHER ONE! SEND HIM A BILL FOR ADVERTISING RIGHT NOW! PLEASE!

We KNOW these schools, OK? Degree.net itself hosts ADS for some of them already! Why should they have to host yours in the forum for FREE?

Get back to us if you have something new or relevant!

Johann

[max]

WAH ! after all this while, tony ramos, the emissary from ansted is still at it.

Hey TONY RAMOS, Why are you such a pain?

I don't know any Dr Sheila, and it really doesn't matter who she works for.

But there is only one person whom I know very well----BARON SIR PROF DR ROGER HAW.

HEY MAYBE YOU ARE ROGER HAW. THAT WOULD EXPLAIN YOU ARE SO DEFENSIVE.

LET ME TELL YOU ROGER HAW'S STORY.

HIS FULL NAME IS HAW BOON HONG FROM PENANG.

PUT IT SIMPLY: IN HAW BOON HONG'S LIFE, HE HAS CHEATED TOO MANY PEOPLE & MADE THEM VERY ANGRY WITH HIM.

HAW BOON HONG USED TO SELL INSURANCE. IN THE NINETIES, HE WAS FOUND GUILTY AND FINED RM250,000.
THE PERSON WHO TESTIFIED AGAINST HAW WAS THE FORMER MANAGER OF THE SUN NEWSPAPER.
HAW HAD APPARENTLY USED THE NEWSPAPER TO PUBLICISE HIS ILLEGAL PYRAMID SELLING SCAM, DRAGGING ALSO THE NAME OF THE INSURANCE COMPANY HE WORKED FOR.

IN 2004, HE MANAGED TO GET AN EXECUTIVE COUNCILLOR IN THE STATE GOVT OF PENANG TO OFFICIATE HIS ASRIA AWARD FUNCTION.THE POLITICIAN ATTENDED HAW'S FUNCTION BECAUSE HAW KNEW THE POLITICIAN'S BROTHER.
THE NEXT DAY, THE POLITICIAN RECEIVED A VISIT FROM A PROMINENT FIGURE IN PENANG, WARNING HIM ABOUT HAW. SINCE THEN THE POLITICIAN HAS REFUSED TO ATTEND ANY OF HAW"S FUNCTION & HAS ALSO WARNED OTHERS ABOUT HIM.

TONY RAMOS, IF YOU ARE REALLY ROGER HAW, PLS DON'T CON THE PEOPLE IN PENANG ANYMORE.
THERE IS A NEW GOVT NOW THAT WON'T TAKE YOUR NONSENSE!

IF YOU CARRY ON, THERE IS A HIGH POSSIBILITY YOU MAY GET CAUGHT & THE NAMES OF YOUR CLIENTS WILL BE EXPOSED.

! AM WAITING FOR THIS DAY TO COME.

[tony_ramos]

Hello MAX,
Sorry I'm no Prof. Roger Haw. I do not have any association or connection with him.

The reason I found Ansted too interesting and also so many stories telling about him on this board.

However, one thing I found strange if Ansted is a diploma mill & Prof. Dr. Haw is dubious, when there are so many "stupid" people out there who are associated with him & Ansted including people from Clarkson University.

So far, I could not find any website that talk about Ansted/Prof. Roger Haw with scam or diploma mill except this degree.net.

This is another link that associate with Ansted:
Evaluation aspects of creative process
Aleksandra Slahova, Ilze Volonte, Maris Cacka and Roger Haw Boon Hong
http://dau.lv/ise/publications_volume1.htm

To be honest I'm still not sure if Ansted is fake until today.

By the way, Max are you from Malaysia? Are you the victim of Ansted?
Please share your experinece with Ansted to us.

TRAMOS:p



WAH ! after all this while, tony ramos, the emissary from ansted is still at it.

Hey TONY RAMOS, Why are you such a pain?

I don't know any Dr Sheila, and it really doesn't matter who she works for.

But there is only one person whom I know very well----BARON SIR PROF DR ROGER HAW.

HEY MAYBE YOU ARE ROGER HAW. THAT WOULD EXPLAIN YOU ARE SO DEFENSIVE.

LET ME TELL YOU ROGER HAW'S STORY.

HIS FULL NAME IS HAW BOON HONG FROM PENANG.

PUT IT SIMPLY: IN HAW BOON HONG'S LIFE, HE HAS CHEATED TOO MANY PEOPLE & MADE THEM VERY ANGRY WITH HIM.

HAW BOON HONG USED TO SELL INSURANCE. IN THE NINETIES, HE WAS FOUND GUILTY AND FINED RM250,000.
THE PERSON WHO TESTIFIED AGAINST HAW WAS THE FORMER MANAGER OF THE SUN NEWSPAPER.
HAW HAD APPARENTLY USED THE NEWSPAPER TO PUBLICISE HIS ILLEGAL PYRAMID SELLING SCAM, DRAGGING ALSO THE NAME OF THE INSURANCE COMPANY HE WORKED FOR.

IN 2004, HE MANAGED TO GET AN EXECUTIVE COUNCILLOR IN THE STATE GOVT OF PENANG TO OFFICIATE HIS ASRIA AWARD FUNCTION.THE POLITICIAN ATTENDED HAW'S FUNCTION BECAUSE HAW KNEW THE POLITICIAN'S BROTHER.
THE NEXT DAY, THE POLITICIAN RECEIVED A VISIT FROM A PROMINENT FIGURE IN PENANG, WARNING HIM ABOUT HAW. SINCE THEN THE POLITICIAN HAS REFUSED TO ATTEND ANY OF HAW"S FUNCTION & HAS ALSO WARNED OTHERS ABOUT HIM.

TONY RAMOS, IF YOU ARE REALLY ROGER HAW, PLS DON'T CON THE PEOPLE IN PENANG ANYMORE.
THERE IS A NEW GOVT NOW THAT WON'T TAKE YOUR NONSENSE!

IF YOU CARRY ON, THERE IS A HIGH POSSIBILITY YOU MAY GET CAUGHT & THE NAMES OF YOUR CLIENTS WILL BE EXPOSED.

! AM WAITING FOR THIS DAY TO COME.

[tony_ramos]

Source:http://www.gliorg.net/standard.asp?id=5046

Boon Hong Haw - Ansted University, Penang, Malaysia
Prof Dr Roger Haw is the Founder cum Chairman of the First Kind of World Bank of Records with a Focus on Corporate Social Responsibility. A co-author of several books and research ppaers, he founded the Ansted Social Responsibility International Award. He has himself received many awards and commendations. As a man from a humble family, he had experienced and sympathized with the woes of the financially less fortunate students. With his understanding and kindness, he has helped many working adults including professional people to gain their desired degree qualifications.

source:http://ban-m.hit.bg/6.html

The full List of the Founding-members is given here also:
1. Prof. Dr. Francis Dessart, PhD /PeyD, Dr.Hab. Academician, doc. hon. causa, Expert UNISpAR/UNESCO, Internat. NGO Delegate to United Naitions, BELGIUM
2. Dr. Wand Janina Ostap, DA/PhD, Dr of ULIM. Expert of the Internat. Org. of Folk Art (I0V/UNESCO), BELGIUM
3. Prof. Dr. Oscar Ravera, Hon. member of Ital. Soc. Ecology; Italian Research Council (CNR), ITALY
4. Sir Prof. Dr. Boon Hong Haw, PhD, MBA, Found-member of Ansted University, BVI, UK, Penang, MALAYSIA

source: http://www.peachqc.com/1.html

Dear Dr. Sir Professor Abe Abrahami



On behalf of the Ansted University faculty members concern, we, after reading through your book in the field of Change Management, we found out that you have written a winner!



Congratulations on a job well done!



Yours sincerely



Roger Haw

www.ansteduniversity.org



Prof. Dr. Roger Haw, Ansted University Asia Regional Service Center, P O Box 1067, 10840 Penang, Malaysia) is the Founder cum Chairman of the First kind of World Book of Records with a Focus on Corporate Social Responsibility aspects ‘SRW RecordPedia’ and Founded the Ansted Social Responsibility International Award (ASRIA) to recognize those Corporations, NGOs and individuals around the world. He has co-authored several books and research papers in the areas of Corporate Social Responsibility, Learning Organizations, Culture & Peace and Distance/Virtual Learning Programmes which were published by various publishers in the UK, Europe, USA, India, Korea, Thailand, Canada, and Malaysia, etc.

[max]

Tony Ramos,

I Have Never Been Conned By Haw.

People Who Believed In Obtaining Their Degrees The Hard Way Don't Get Conned By Haw.

Why Are You Here?

The Next Time You Want To Post In Here, Show Us Your Ansted Degree & How You Became Gainfully Employed With It.

But That Is Not Your Game Right?

You Just Want To Keep On Promoting Ansted. Why?

I Am Here To Share Wat I Know About Ansted.

Jhohann Is Also Sharing His Knowledge Of Diploma Mills.

So What About You

[tony_ramos]

Hi Max,
I believe this board is opened to everyone.
And everyone is free to express his/her view on this board.
Nothing is right or wrong!
Please don't get me wrong as I have never promoted diploma mill or fake degree. I don't have any degree from Ansted.

In fact I don't promote Ansted or Prof. Roger Haw. What I did so far is just try to know more about Ansted and also Prof. Roger Haw since this institution is very interesting. Nothing more than that.
By the way, why you and other people like Johann, Cheer39....claim that
Ansted & Prof. Roger are fake since you have not been conned by him?

In contrast, when I do google, I can find many links that associate Ansted/Prof. Roger Haw with positive sides except this forum. Can you tell me why?

TRAMOS

BEng (University of IOWA)
MBA (Fox School, Temple University)
DBA (Phoniex University)
Ph.D (on going, University of California Davis):p





Tony Ramos,

I Have Never Been Conned By Haw.

People Who Believed In Obtaining Their Degrees The Hard Way Don't Get Conned By Haw.

Why Are You Here?

The Next Time You Want To Post In Here, Show Us Your Ansted Degree & How You Became Gainfully Employed With It.

But That Is Not Your Game Right?

You Just Want To Keep On Promoting Ansted. Why?

I Am Here To Share Wat I Know About Ansted.

Jhohann Is Also Sharing His Knowledge Of Diploma Mills.

So What About You

[scaredrain]

Hi Max,
I believe this board is opened to everyone.
And everyone is free to express his/her view on this board.
Nothing is right or wrong!
Please don't get me wrong as I have never promoted diploma mill or fake degree. I don't have any degree from Ansted.

In fact I don't promote Ansted or Prof. Roger Haw. What I did so far is just try to know more about Ansted and also Prof. Roger Haw since this institution is very interesting. Nothing more than that.
By the way, why you and other people like Johann, Cheer39....claim that
Ansted & Prof. Roger are fake since you have not been conned by him?

In contrast, when I do google, I can find many links that associate Ansted/Prof. Roger Haw with positive sides except this forum. Can you tell me why?

TRAMOS

BEng (University of IOWA)
MBA (Fox School, Temple University)
DBA (Phoniex University)
Ph.D (on going, University of California Davis):p

I dont see anything positive about someone calling themselves "Baron Sir" At least know the proper way to address such a title. A person who makes up fake titles for themselves is not going to be seen in a positive light.

You may google online and find "positive sites" about Robert Haw, but anyone can set up such sites overnite and post whatever they want about anything and anyone on there.

I dont think this site is being negative about Ansted, if they were, they would just delete this post and ban anyone from posting about it. This site is letting the arguments over this dubious university continue.

My thoughts are that Ansted will not be recognized in the US and many other countries, so if anyone wants to attend the school, they should do at their own risk of having their degree laughed at in some places. Of course a person is free to spend their money on what they choose, so if one chooses to spend money on Ansted, thats their own problem.

[max]

tony ramos,

does one need to be conned by roger haw in order to know that he is a fake? what kind of logic is this?

i have never told you to stop posting in here. i am just questioning your motive.

when i see a person who claims to have a phd and still can't write properly, i have grounds to suspect his/hers academic credentials.

when someone uses a title like baron or sir without a proper right to use them, i have grounds to question the person's integrity.

finally do you know roger haw personally? are you from penang? if you are not from penang and you do not know roger haw personally, how can you be so sure about what you read on him.

no need to go into the topic of ansted any further.

since you are already so convince that roger haw and ansted are genuine, then pay roger haw for your second phd.

next time when you post in here, show us your phd from ansted and that you are able to gain employment from it. i am sure you will have no problems, as you have pointed out that there are many ceos with degrees from ansted. just go to anyone of them --like that donald you mention--and i am sure they will give you a post, considering the fact that you are their 'bro' from the same school.

as they say: put your money where your mouth is.

[JohnDoe]

tony ramos,


when i see a person who claims to have a phd and still can't write properly, i have grounds to suspect his/hers academic credentials.
.

I also react to this.

Another point is that Mr. Ramos, as a holder of a doctorate and an on-going Phd, should have gained the analytical skills necessary to stop this thread himself a long time ago.

I would believe that an essential part of a doctorate would be the ability to criticially evaluate sources of information, and not to postulate (for example) - as done before - that someone should be of higher ethcial quality than others if they are associated with certain individuals.

In my country the kind of logic that sometimes is presented by Mr. Ramos would not get pass undergraduate studies. In my country all students have to take a course in the first semester of undergraduate studies that focus on critical thinking, logic, validity and reliability. If one does not pass this course, then one is not allowed to continue undergraduate studies. The kind of logic presented in this thread would by no means pass.

I would guess that Mr. Ramos would meet far more criticism on other boards if the posted the same thread on those boards as he has done here. One board is frequently visitited by John Bear. I can't remember the name of the board right now, because I am at work. However; try posting this discussion there, and prepare to get slaugthered :p

[tony_ramos]

WAH ! after all this while, tony ramos, the emissary from ansted is still at it.

LET ME TELL YOU ROGER HAW'S STORY.

HIS FULL NAME IS HAW BOON HONG FROM PENANG.

PUT IT SIMPLY: IN HAW BOON HONG'S LIFE, HE HAS CHEATED TOO MANY PEOPLE & MADE THEM VERY ANGRY WITH HIM.



Hi Max,
Why he did not go to jail despite cheating so many people?:rolleyes:

If he is a conman, why there are so many welknown people out there still llike to collaborate with him such as Dr.Dana Barry from Clarkson University, Dr. Sheila Murray author of the best selling book or even Dalai Lama of Tibet, just to name a few.:mrgreen:

Are you saying he is a "superconman" who has a special power to convince people surrounding him? :confused:

By the way, don't suspect my academic creadential. Neither of my earned degree is from Ansted. Sorry if I dissapoint you. :roll:

TRAMOS

[ShotoJuku]

OK, despite the futile attempt to keep this thread open for a good-spirited debate it just keeps getting nastier. I am closing this thread until everyone can agree to play nice....... :(