After careful investigation I have determined that Breyer State University (BSU) is not a diploma mill, but is instead a legitimate privately accredit post secondary institution. Privately accredited colleges typically do not share the same level of prestige or academic acceptance as a Regionally or Nationally accredited college, but this does not necessarily mean the educational value received from a BSU degree is less than, or of poorer quality than what might be obtained from a CHEA accredited college. I really don’t see how anyone can in good faith compare BSU to a diploma mill. At this juncture in my college search I am seriously considering in enrolling in BSU’s Doctorate in Addiction Counseling Psychology program.

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Post Baccalaureate Certificate - Addiction Studies, University of Minnesota
B.S.L., Excelsior College
A.S.L., Excelsior College

Since you are aware of potential limitations and are going in with your eyes wide open, good luck. People that don't understand the limitations and intend on using a BSU degree as a primary qualification can be a problem but the nanny state can't stop every individual from stepping in the only cow pie in the field.

Again, if the industry in which you work doesn't recognize the degree you're pursuing, 'legality' means very little.

On the other hand, a Department of Post-secondary Education would absolutely qualify as an industry watchdog, so it sounds like you may be in the clear.

Remember, the word we're looking for is 'accreditation', not 'legal'.

I didn't say that they are accredited but we mustn't say that bsu is a mill.Because if you say that, you mean that all the unaccredited schools are mills, something wrong for me.that's all.

I understand your point. But, if you look at my post again, the words 'BSU' and 'mill' are nowhere to be found.

Actually, saying that BSU is a mill is not necessarily the same thing as saying that all unaccredited schools are mills.

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Theodore Lamar Heiks
BA, History/Political Science, Western State College of Colorado, 1984
MBA, Entrepreneurship, City University of Seattle, 1992
MBA, Marketing, City University of Seattle, 1993

BSU isn't a mill, so it's all good. I look at BSU as no different than self study in a library, with a nice certificate to hang on your wall.

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Post Baccalaureate Certificate - Addiction Studies, University of Minnesota
B.S.L., Excelsior College
A.S.L., Excelsior College

Hi

I have no doubt of your intelligence, even though you remain adamantly loyal to BSU, in light of its recent woes. I believe you could succeed at any school you choose. Your attainments so far make that obvious. However, I hope you are VERY thick-skinned, as you may well need to be. As I (and people much smarter than I) have said - not everybody views a BSU degree as anywhere NEAR equal to well-aimed and rigorous self-study.

I think that any school that loses an "easy" Alabama license through plain obstinacy (refusal to add sufficient general education subjects or to can the "self-designed" degrees) and hangs its hat in three states within a few weeks, after doing the double-spoof-accreditation shuffle - is probably far LESS conducive to actual learning than studying by oneself in the library! Why risk your money?

Here's a better plan. It's not a good plan at all - just better than BSU. Make yourself a plan, then study in the library, as you suggested, thereby saving a few thousand dollars. Then, when you feel you've learned sufficiently (a feeling BSU may never be able to give you) for practically no cost, you can fire up your laser printer, choose a school name and end up with a FAR better-looking diploma than BSU can offer.

As I said - not a good plan but better than BSU. Both diplomas are wall-hangers with no job prospects attached. Why not get the better-looking, cheaper one, with any name you want? If you apply yourself in the library, as I'm sure you are able, you'll likely have a better learning experience while you're at it!

Johann