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Old 07-13-2008, 07:05 PM
baban-1234 baban-1234 is offline
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Default Minister License degree

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what is Minister License degree??
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Old 07-13-2008, 09:46 PM
kouzoulos kouzoulos is offline
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Originally Posted by baban-1234 View Post
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what is Minister License degree??

that smells a scam... let the experts tell us their opinion but for me it is a little bit suspicious.
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Old 07-13-2008, 10:23 PM
johann johann is offline
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Default Worthless diplomas -promptly delivered!


The degrees, certificates, Ph.D.s and phony qualifications in counselling are not only worthless in the academic sense - they CAN be downright dangerous!

The "free certificate in counselling" along with the $295 Ph.D. (diploma only - no instruction) won't get anyone State Licensed as a Counsellor, but might prepare them to go out and inflict incredible, perhaps irreparable, damage on suffering individuals.

This "Sanctified?" Diploma Factory is a heartless con indeed, that can prepare people to heartlessly con others who are desperate, or delude purchasers of diplomas into thinking they can actually help, when they cannot!

For counselling - no State License, for sure! End up making State License PLATES? ....Maybe that SHOULD happen!

As to the ministerial license - I imagine some places you might actually get away with performing marriages, funerals etc. You could certainly spread the Word of God - as you see it! Definitely not for overseas use. Domestically - let's hear; any PULC Ministers out there? How are you doing? Anybody married by one?


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Old 07-14-2008, 01:16 AM
Dennis Ruhl Dennis Ruhl is offline
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First of all, anything issued by the Progressive Universal Life Church is close to worthless. I can't say worthless because someone, somewhere, has used their products therefore obtaining some value.

I bring up the link for the Universal Life Church because they do have some historical interest in the field of education:


The Universal Life Church is responsible for the large numbers of unaccredited church affiliated schools offering degrees in the US. In their case against the IRS the judge determined that it is not within the power of government to determine what legally constitutes a church. Claiming to be a church makes an organization a church. An extension of this judgement is that a church has the power to train its clergy without interference from government.

The ULC offers many degrees for assorted prices that are again almost worthless. In some states a free ULC ordination allows one to marry people.

While I know what the Universal Life Church is, I've never heard of the Progressive Univeral Life Church. One extra note. While the IRS apparently provides tax relief to churches, any individual trying to enrich himself would be expected to pay taxes on any financial benefit he receives.

ULC legal stuff:


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