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#41
05-18-2009, 01:54 AM
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Still no response unfortunately!!
Dear Ham,
The world "université" is not allowed for private institutions in France and you know it. For Example HEC (Ecole des Hautes études commerciales) is not called "université" because it is private and by the way the best Business school of France. The Ecole supérieure Robert de Sorbon is a legal French institution of higher education for 5 years. You like it or not it is a verifiable fact ... Please correct the word "gang", it is offensive specially to the de Sorbon VAE Jury members. Each of them has my dear "Ham", much higher credentials than you and me together. You still elude the most important fact because it troubles you.(Be intelligent accept it) If de Sorbon denies some VAE degrees and lowers the level of some VAE (later refused by the student), it is definitely not a Diploma Mill. (by essence): A VAE process is judged also by the quality of its juries. FYI de Sorbon professors have Ph.-D. degrees from the following universities:
To be intelligent and fair is to recognize it... or at least to respect those eminent scholars. Last edited by zboubi : 05-18-2009 at 02:01 AM. 
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#42
05-18-2009, 03:51 AM
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PFFT!
I am tired of running in circles... université francophone Robert de Sorbon folded because it was dodgy, period. Now let's wait for école supérieure Robert de Sorbon to fold... I am sure representatives will cook us a pretty story to explain why, when time comes, much as now they hurry to explain why "université" was illegal... PFFT!
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#43
06-29-2009, 12:53 PM
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Good thing that this school was sanctioned. They are not only stealing the money of students but also their opportunity for a great education. I hope they gain justice and have these 'institutions' banned.
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#45
07-01-2009, 09:27 AM
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Finally I have received my long overdue diploma from Ecole Superieure Robert De Soborn (ESRDS) after waited for more than one and a half year. I submitted my application along with full payment to ESRDS in 2007 after they have vet through my initial submission and confirmed that I am eligible for the award of a Degree. The offer for a Master Degree was communicated to me through email by the President-Doyen - Dr John Thomas in early 2008. However ESRDS failed to send me the Diploma despite my repeated reminders throughout a period of one year. This ESRDS is so unprofessional that they did not even border to reply any of my emails. I am finally convinced that I was cheated of my money until recently when I found this degree.net website. To my surprise after I posted my case here, ESRDS started to contact me again and offer to help me get my diploma. I believed some of the members here who messaged me are official representatives from ESRDS. Their names are quite obvious since they speak highly of ESRDS.
My issue now is I am really doubting the quality/legitimacy of the Diploma issued by ESRDS. Upon closer inspection of the Diploma, this is what I observed 1. The University/School logo (ESRDS logo) was not printed on the Diploma which I find it very strange not to do so. 2. There is no official seal/emblem on the diploma. This I believed is required to certify that the diploma is genuine and original issued by the institution. 3. The diploma was printed on a low quality and very thin piece of paper (thinner than a $ note). The quality of the printing is also not very sharp. It appears like the work was done in a low cost print shop down the street. 4. In addition to the Diploma, ESRDS also provide me with a supplementary letter called “UNESCO Diploma Supplement” which can be authentify by ESRDS anytime at no cost. This supplementary letter was actually issued under ESRDS letterhead. It appears to me ESRDS is making a wild claim that they have the blessing of UNESCO? Is this a misrepresentation? Please view enclosed visual attachments for details. Can someone enlighten me further on my concerns over the above matters? When I refer to ESRDS, they give me a lame excuse that the French people normally do not celebrate the award of degree and it is absolutely normal for not to expect a high quality printed diploma from any French Institutions. I am very concern about using the diploma for my future/professional enhancement. I would appreciate some valuable comments before I decide what to do with it. Thank you.
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#46
07-01-2009, 11:18 AM
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  thrive in the silence because they can lend credibility to their improbable claims. Quote:
After griping on watchdog sites about unresponsive or fraudulent dating agencies, it's not unusual to see things change. In one case they even brought back from the quantic foam the online love queen who had scammed a man out of agency credit before disappearing... Quote:
You have bought yourself a parchment representing a dodgy degree...use it at your own peril...Yes, it was me who said I have no problem with milled degrees IF that helps closing a sale or something like that, but I said closing a sale or impressing one client, not associating my image with a milled degree. The 'UNESCO supplement' is also worthless...it's jargon supposedly referring to conventions that are rarely enforced, if at all. Besides, ask yourself this: for years they have been telling people how accredited and wonderful 'université Sorbon' supposedly was...then 'université' folded leaving its clients...ehm, graduates high and dry...the very same ESRDS peddlers now tell you how the very mention of 'université' is illegal in France...how long before 'école Sorbon' folds, too? Oh, I am sure they may have 'académie' or 'séminaire' Sorbon on the back burner...
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A.A Mole University B.A London Institute of Applied Research B.Sc Millard Fillmore M.A International Institute for Advanced Studies Ph.D London Institute of Applied Research Ph.D Millard Fillmore
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#47
07-01-2009, 04:40 PM
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#48
08-21-2009, 08:39 PM
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It seems that the more I hear about Sorbon, the more it sounds like total bull$h*t.
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#49
08-22-2009, 08:35 AM
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I repeat: assembling a number of legitimate Ph.D holders and have them declare my work is Ph.D quality will NOT make a legitimate Ph.D of anyone.
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A.A Mole University B.A London Institute of Applied Research B.Sc Millard Fillmore M.A International Institute for Advanced Studies Ph.D London Institute of Applied Research Ph.D Millard Fillmore
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