There is no doubt that the école supérieure Robert de Sorbon is a 5 years old French Private Institution of Higher Education

We have to be serious, as the publication at the Journal Officiel de la République Française....(Official Register of the French Republic) was published on this blog!.

The Ecole Supérieure Robert de Sorbon is also mentioned in the Annuaire Officiel de l'Enseignement Privé. ( Official Register opf Private Education)

ESDRS always says that it is an " un établissement d'enseignement supérieur privé" see http://www.sorbon.fr/france.html and http://www.sorbon.fr/index1.html in English. It writes in its English pages: The école supérieure Robert de Sorbon is not a US or Canadian accredited university, but a French registered private institution of higher education.

De Sorbon has greatly improved the quality of its faculty, that now includes a Vice Rector and a Dean of a famous public University and more than Ph.D. graduates from Paris V Sorbonne, Paris IV, Partis VI, Université Charles de Gaulle, University of Amsterdam, Moscow. Moldova, etc.

As somebody wrote in an other blog:

For people with no evidence, innuendo seems to suffice. Sorbon is a legally operating non-profit school, like it or not. As with any school, it is up to the user to decide the sufficiency of the program. The ad infinitum baseless criticism is tiring.

Advice: the more you stir sh!t, the more it is going to stink.
I am not sure you are doing your employer's good by stirring debates that bring to light "fun facts" about Ecole Supérieure Robert de Sorbon and its often incoherent narrative...this thread will make it to the search engines soon...not good for business...

On ESRDS's site many such sites are mentioned, which are NOT official sites from the French government (*.gouv.fr extension ) but mere "listings" of which there are thousands...

Again playing on the ignorance of the listener..."private higher education venue"...it says nothing about it being French, Comorean, American or whichever yarn is ESRDS spinning this week; it says nothing about which subjects/degrees ESRDS may teach or confer...it is not "innuendo"...it is what your employer posted on his website over the years...blame the blunder on them, not on me.

First, cases exist of "unwonderful schools" making up a faculty list whose members denied any affiliation when contacted; second, even if the list is genuine, it just means someone is being paid to fill the role and tells prospective buyers nothing about the standing of Ecole Supérieure Robert de Sorbon under French law and about the status of ESRDS's degrees under French law; it should matter, since the trick is to subsequently "convert" ESRDS degrees into local ones (Americans, whatever) thanks to some "friendly evaluator" like mr. Prade...

Ok, I have no evidence...what's yours?
You still cannot decide whether ESRDS is a French outfit...a Comorean outfit...an American outfit...
Maybe your old pal Prade knows best.
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article.../2079/NEWS0104
Assuming Prade is right and "Université" no longer exists, why did he cease operation, if it was such a clean and "legal" operation?
Who tells us this "école" will not disappear much as the "université" did?
By the way, you brag about "école" being 5 years old, but those 5 years include the "université"'s life span...and the "université" disappeared.

"Ham" is really funny. He denies the obvious proved by the Journal Officiel de la République Française. No serious discussion could continues

His hate of de Sorbon make him doubting of the integriy of 20 + faculty members with extremly good credentials (it includes a Vice-Rector and a Dean and 3 Public university director of Academic department). For me it is just a sign that de Sorbon has adequate Juries for its VAE. no more no less...

I want to stay on the comic side and provide ham with an humor message.
(If "Ham" who knows everything about France, does not know the famous "mère Denis" I apologize.)

1. The journal entry only proves that a legal association under law 1901 was banded, nothing more.
It says nothing about the recognition of degrees, or the permission to teach and award them.
2. It is nice you dodged the points about ESRDS once claiming to be accredited from the Comoros or from America; and the fact that I "université" mysteriously disappeared to make room for "école"...
I had no intention to further this discussion, but I think it's fair prospective buyers know the shop they're buying from...the rest is THEIR PROBLEM as adults.
Do not believe anyone, me included, and do your own homework...

Thank you both for your insight regarding this school. Let's keep it friendly and free from personal attacks, though.

As HAM says for the viewer researching this school "...do your own homework"

My god! How many time should I point out that the Ecole Supérieure Robert de Sorbon is a legal 5 years old university authorized to grant degree in France. It is under the control of the éducation Nationale A full title of the code de l'éducation manages the opening, control and degree granting of private french universities.

You have also to make a balance between the hidden identity of some so called blog experts de Sorbon and the 20+ Ph.D holders graduated from the best universities of France. It includes the Vice rector and Dean of one of the most famous university of Latin America and no less than 3 directors of French programs in public universities.

To be more serious, I must point out that de Sorbon was criticized for offering the difficult possibility to get a Ph.D. (Doctorate level) through the VAE. You shgould see the vicious commentsa like "No public universities will ever grant a Ph.D through the VAE.. etc...)

Breizhou mentioned (rendons à César) an advertising page of the université de Strasbourg granting a Doctorate through the VAE

All that needed to be said, has been said.
Do your homework.
As I said, ALL universities have PLAR provisions talking about portfolios etc...the problem is none will grant full degrees exclusively for prior learning, although on paper all could (doctorates for published work by UK universities are an example).

OK, you said, "un établissement d'enseignement supérieur privé" but I cannot find what kind of "enseignement " you give. The VAE is not an "enseignement ". As per my knowledge (i live in France and also I hold a degree from a french university), for an "établissement " in order to be eligible to deliver diplomas by VAE, it must be a REGISTERED/recognized UNIVERSITY and not an "association" , as like the university of Paris, Marseille, Bordeaux...etc. Except of all these, if someone want a VAE degree must take some exams and also to be interrogated by the "jury" of the university etc etc!

You are just an association registered in France. that's alll, but if I'm wrong, could you please provide us an official document from the French ministry of education that recognizes your "Ecole"?

thank you

An older version of école supérieure Robert de Sorbon 's website showed an address beginning with "Association"; the mention was later withdrawn.
As I mentioned, this "school" cannot decide whether it is accredited from France, USA or the Comoros...also, they cannot explain why or how did "université" disappear and "école" appeared in its place...
This is not insider's knowledge of dubious origin...this is their own website.

Dear Ham,

How are you?

I think that you are not logical and refuse to see the facts. It is Clear that:

-They are a 5 years old French University. In France the word "université" is by Law reserved to public universties. (HEC, Ecoles de cadres are private and are not "université").

- Their name is Ecole supérieure Robert de Sorbon with correct registrations (Journal Officiel de la République française, SIRET, Annuaire Officiel de l'enseignement privé, etc) and under the control of the French educational ministry. All private universities are under the control of the French Education Nationale. See the details explained in Title VI of Book VII of the Code de l'éducation (sorry in France everything is govern by Codes since Napoléon...Louisianians know it!)

-They have the right to grant diploma as per the Law and confirmed publicly by two High Civil servants.

-They use the VAE which is as seven years old legal procedure, which is commonly used in France (A public university even advertises for its VAE doctorate).

You may dislike the French Educational system or consider badly the VAE. It is your right. The facts shows that de Sorbon is a regular French private institution of higher education. The quality of its Jury members (including a Vice-Rector, Dean, 3 directors of the French departments of public universities, Ph.D from the "French Sorbonnes" and top Universities), is also reassuring on their VAE process.