The ecole supérieure Robert de Sorbon sadly reported today on another blog that today a scandal rocks the French Public Universities.

As stated by Le Monde and Yahoo.fr Several French public universities sold degrees to Chinese students. This include the public Universities of Toulon, Pau, La Rochelle, Poitiers and one Paris University. The police raided on March 26, the public University of Toulon and discovered that 100% of the Chinese students get their degrees in management! A penal judge was nominated for corruption .The scheme at the public university in Toulon was:

-Bribe of $3000 per degree (€ 2700)
-More than 300 degrees were bought in 2008
-The system was in place since 2004

According to a recent TV show the same applies in Public Russian Universities where $10,000 were paid to get a first year examination.

De Sorbon condemns this practice of public universities, which put stains on the French Academical higher education.

It shows that the French private universities, which are not involved in this scandal are genuine and respectable.

Oh?
Is ESRDS jealous because they lost clients to the competition?
Hell, ecole supérieure Robert de Sorbon cannot mill all French degrees alone, don't you think?

I think that this forum was serious For me the école Supérieure Robert de Sorbon is a 5 years old private French institution that use the legal VAE procedure and is allowed to grant degrees. Its only my opinion but the list of their professors is impressive and includes a Vice-Rector and Dean of a famous Latin-American University and several Ph.D. graduates from "la Sorbonne".

It is very sad (if true) that French public universities are selling, in great numbers Public French degrees to Chinese students. It is seen as a catastrophy in France and enhances the already legal status of French Private universities.

It shows nothing of the sort, only that they were not involved in the scandal.

It shows that people are people and some French are no different then some RUssians or Americans.

This type of scandals and selling of degrees is happening all over the world.
We hear only about the one that was exposed.

In General France has reliable academic system. No country is perfect.
I was watching the other day how some guy was selling Canadian university degrees.

I can see that this type of activity increase even more as people in bad economic times try to change their professions in a fast way.

There is a demand to this product.

I see this mainly as an attempt to circulate the name of ecole supérieure Robert de Sorbon among prospective (gullible) buyers...
Well guys, remember it's your name & your money: before choosing a provider, run internet searches and contact competent French authorities to find out...
For a start:
http://online.degree.net/accredited-...ning-2587.html

The one that counts..from the Journal Officiel of the French République not posts of American individuals that does not know the French system of higher education.



and the Annuaire Officiel le l'enseignement privé

Now I had posted another thread with a few interesting "fun facts" about ESRDS, but then erased it (and asked moderators to delete it ) because (as I posted elsewhere):

However, let's not make the mistake -and let's not make the dishonest claim- that ESRDS is "just another French school awarding French degrees", which is not.

See attached:
It says (2004): this school is legal; it is an association under law 1901, but it cannot award degrees recognized by the national education ministry.

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Another one (2004) from the competent Académie:
They say ESRDS adverises itself as an "American university"; that its degrees are not French degrees "such as those that duly recognized universities can award"; they add "the French document you attach [which ESRDS used to "prove" its accreditation ] does in no way constitute a recognition, but A REQUEST FOR MORE INFORMATION TO START A PROCEDURE/OPEN A FILE".

Funny how the "official document" http://www.sorbonedu.com/poitiers.jpg that years ago was touted as "proof" of ESRDS's "accreditation" (and which I hard forwarded to the Académie ) is no longer used...

So buyers: do not believe anybody (me included): just get in touch with the relevant French authorities to find out, and mind that most unaccredited dodgy schools are "legal".

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If you use www.archive.org you'll see that ESRDS once claimed:

and -at the same time-

http://web.archive.org/web/200501231...sorbonedu.com/

Which is which?
Is the thing French...Comorean...American...all of it...none of it?
Come on, let's be serious...