Just the name. University of Action Learning sounds like a totally amateur operation. A university is supposed to be named afer a city, state, or dead president.

Hi Dennis -

Yes - CSM had a good reputation. As you say, real and rigorous courses. I can remember the Fellow and Associate designations - I don't think the word "degree" was used (at least by the school itself) for those. I also remember NOU fairly well. At one time (1980s) ICS Canada was offering a degree course (B. Comm.). A student took ICS-run courses and exams and the degree was eventually awarded by NOU.

I think NOU might have been forced by some level of Government to close its doors for lack of a charter - not sure. I remember in the 1980s asking the Ministry here in Ontario if it was recognized and being told it wasn't...you know how it is, here in Canada...

ICS Canada stopped offering degree courses soon after and I don't believe they or any subsequent Canadian ICS incarnations have offered them since, although Canadians can enroll for the US Penn Foster degree courses.

WHOOPS! Just found your extensive writings on Northland's history in the "Degreebeard" archives. WOW! Sorry -- I'm lecturing the Master, here! And sorry too, for misunderstanding your Revans remark. Yes, Action Learning is indeed a terrible name for a school!

I'm sure you recognize this guy (Korey). http://www.icbm.ac.in/csm.htm There's a bio halfway down this Indian site that says he founded both CSM and Northland in 1976.

Oh yes - as to "Did Revans really move?" Yeah -- right! I'm not an accountant, but I'm sure Revans U. probably has a Vanuatu presence of much the same "lawyer's file-cabinet" nature as Rushmore U. likely has in the Cayman Islands. And for the same reasons....let's say financial privacy.

Johann

Dear Sir,
please explain me that what are the reasons of low employment opportunities of preston's students in karachi city.
I am a student of your karachi campus (shahrah e faisal).
please do the needful for solve that problem of yours students.

Thank you,
BASIT MURSALEEN.
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REG NO. 1552308062

wow - maybe because Preston isn't accredited?

Just a thought...

Hi

No - I think it's just because it's widely thought of as a plain BAD school.

Accredited? Well - yes and no. Karachi is one of (I think) two Preston Pakistan campuses currently approved by the HEC -- and at least one of them "needs major improvement" in the words of the HEC. There are at least seven other Preston campuses operating in Pakistan without HEC approval.

Preston has, as you say, NO valid American accreditation whatsoever. In view of the present State crackdown (and the total absence of any US students) I wouldn't be at all surprised if it failed to retain even its Alabama State license next time that certificate is up for renewal. At that point, it will probably just move to another State -one that does not require a license. One Alabama school has already moved to California, where legislation has expired. Others may do so as well.

Basit, don't waste your time asking us in the forum why a Preston degree won't get you employment. It's a more appropriate question to ask your near-namesake, Dr. Abdul Basit, Preston's President.

I have no idea what HE will say to you, but I will say this. I've read many times that approved schools in Pakistan look upon Preston degrees as inferior and not suitable for admission to further study elsewhere. I have no doubt that many employers share this view - I've heard that they often do, from other Preston grads who had your problem.

Sadly, I have no s***estions for you. Your money is gone and it's not coming back. I only hope you can put together a "plan B" and "move on" successfully somehow.

Johann