Go Back   Online degree forum > Online Degree Discussions > Accredited / Unaccredited / State approved / Diploma Mill
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-18-2008, 03:21 PM
homeless4ever homeless4ever is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 13
Default Any body know about Preston University

http://www.preston.edu/

Please any body know any thing about Accreditation Status ..


Thanks

Homeless4ever -Dubai
Reply With Quote

  #2  
Old 03-18-2008, 05:32 PM
scaredrain scaredrain is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 715
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by homeless4ever View Post
http://www.preston.edu/

Please any body know any thing about Accreditation Status ..


Thanks

Homeless4ever -Dubai
It seems that Preston is an unaccredited university,from their own website:
"Because Preston University is not accredited by a post-secondary school association, many U.S. schools may not immediately accept Preston credits or degrees for transfer into their programs. Aside from academic institutions, most U.S. businesses and many state and local governments will accept the academic credentials of Preston students and graduates."

They are licensed in the State of Alabama, so Preston's degrees may be ok to use in Alabama but elsewhere you may find yourself in trouble or in jail if you are in Texas!

Link to Preston's website about their accreditation:
http://www.preston.edu/accreditation.html
__________________
Ed.D Should complete in 2011

M.S. , M.Ed.
,
Director of Online Faculty Training and Management, Online Adjunct, Online Instructional Technologist, and Course Designer
Reply With Quote

Message from Degree.net
Browse our Online College Directory for more information on accredited online colleges.
  #3  
Old 03-18-2008, 06:15 PM
Dennis Ruhl Dennis Ruhl is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 404
Default

Preston was established in Wyoming until they required all schools to work toward accreditation or close. Preston bailed out and moved to Alabama.
Reply With Quote

  #4  
Old 03-18-2008, 09:34 PM
johann johann is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,202
Default Lots of Preston threads right here!

Hi -

Just because a school is State-licensed in Alabama doesn't mean its degrees are generally acceptable for employment there. I think the prevailing attitude is something like "heck, we let 'em SELL these degrees - they bought a license! They're legal all right - we made 'em legal - but we sure don't want to give any jobs or promotions to folks that are dumb enough to BUY 'em!"

I knew we'd discussed Preston before. This place is "trolling" for students overseas. Preston wants them to think they're being offered legit, proper American degrees - while these are totally unaccredited and have a poor reputation abroad. Preston is known to be active in Southeast Asia, South Asia (Pakistan) and Arab countries. I'd read somewhere they are on the Pakistani Higher Education Commission's "fraud list" of schools whose degrees are unacceptable there.

Here's a thread from an unhappy camper in Cambodia. There are others. One thing that got Preston slammed pretty badly, at one point, was the discovery they were pretending that certain professors (who never worked for them) were on the faculty.

http://online.degree.net/accredited-...hlight=Preston

Yep - there's the link to the Pakistani HEC "Fraud list." Not a bad memory for an old guy! Oh yeah - I just remembered something else. Last I heard the principals of Preston (Jerry Haenisch & Abdul Basit) were opening Fairmount International University in Preston's former Wyoming offices and this new entity was seeking accreditation as Wyoming law required.

I believe this school (Fairmount) applied for DETC accreditation but it is now no longer on the list of applicants. I can find no web-page for Fairmount International - so I'd assume Messrs. Basit & Haenisch are confining their energies to Preston.

Homeless - I'd advise you to avoid this school!

Johann

Last edited by johann : 03-18-2008 at 10:05 PM.
Reply With Quote

  #5  
Old 08-02-2008, 03:41 PM
mystique9999 mystique9999 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 10
Default Check the following

Well I came across this blog that tries to "expose" the Preston University scam. I think it looks pretty well researched. You might want to check it out:

http://theprestonuniversityfraud.blogspot.com/
Reply With Quote

  #6  
Old 08-02-2008, 07:38 PM
johann johann is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,202
Default Yes - It looks well-researched to me.

Hi -

For the most part, I'd agree with the blogger's take on things, although I don't know personally whether or not Preston actually "sells" degrees, as he accuses. I DO know that the school has long been controversial and the value of its degrees has often been a matter of dispute. I believe Preston now operates more campuses in Pakistan than were mentioned - I think 13 in all, and at least one in Cambodia. See a link in a posting above, for one unhappy Cambodian's viewpoint. Preston was, as the blogger says, originally founded in Wyoming, before all schools within that State were required to accredit.

At least a couple of the many Pakistan Preston schools were on the Pakistan Higher Ed. Commission's "fraud list" at one time. It is no longer listed there and all Preston (Pakistan) entities appear now to be on the approved list, operating legally in that country, although at least two of those schools were put on the HEC's lowest-standing "needs major improvement" listing last December.

Last I heard, a local supermodel was said to be running Preston Cambodia. "Halifax University" is interesting. Although the blogger mentioned a British connection, I thought for a moment he might have been talking about another unaccredited Wyoming creation, later moved to Alabama, called "Halifax University."

As the US-based "Halifax" entity has since disappeared off the radar, I'm not sure whether or not it was under the same ownership (Jerry Haenisch and Abdul Basit) as Preston. I looked for a British connection and the blogger was correct. I found a Press Trust of India article from 2003 concerning three new Halifax University campuses - London, Birmingham and Dublin.

London, May 25 (PTI) Encouraged by the success of the Middles-e-x Campus of the US-based Preston University where Indian-origin students outperformed the rest, Halifax University has opened three campuses in the UK.

Five years on, there is a Halifax University Website, still "coming soon" and it bears a British .ac domain! It's at www.halifaxuni.ac . As I said, Preston and its affiliates have long been subject to controversy. Every forum (including this one) has Preston threads. Neither Preston nor Halifax appear on the recognized degree-granting schools list at http://www.dcsf.gov.uk/recognisedukd...Cate goryID=1 . The Wyoming-Pakistan-UAE-Cambodia-Middles-e-x Preston University has nothing whatsoever to do with Preston College (Preston, Lancashire) which IS listed at the British "recognized degree-granting" site.

Johann

Last edited by johann : 08-02-2008 at 08:30 PM.
Reply With Quote

  #7  
Old 08-02-2008, 10:22 PM
ShotoJuku's Avatar
ShotoJuku ShotoJuku is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: NCC-1701
Posts: 573
Default

I had looked into PU and concluded that enrolling just wasn't worth the risk.
__________________
ShotoJuku +
Senior Moderator
Reply With Quote

  #8  
Old 08-02-2008, 11:04 PM
Kyle's Avatar
Kyle Kyle is offline
Degree.net
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 372
Default Yes, but...

Quote:
Originally Posted by mystique9999 View Post
Well I came across this blog that tries to "expose" the Preston University scam. I think it looks pretty well researched. You might want to check it out:

http://theprestonuniversityfraud.blogspot.com/
The blog looks well-researched, but the fact that there is only one post, no follow-up, and no indication of the person who wrote it makes me take it with a grain of salt.

Disgruntled student? Oppositional university? There's no telling who is behind the blog and what their intentions are.

I'm not supporting PU by any means, but I'm sure you could find plenty of folks who were satisfied with their experience.
Reply With Quote

  #9  
Old 08-02-2008, 11:45 PM
Dennis Ruhl Dennis Ruhl is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 404
Default

Preston U. is another one of those mysteries. I suspect that the system of many separate campuses would have made any attempt at accreditation impossible or prohibitively expensive. I also think they remained quite successful without accreditation so it wasn't even on their radar.

While I suspect that Preston offers reasonably substantive programs and they appear to have some legitimacy in Pakistan it would have been good to see a real attempt at American legitimacy.

I suspect the only two schools to come out of the Wyoming shmozzle will be Warren National U and Columbia Commonwealth U. I thought about a Columbia Commonwealth PhD but they dropped the arts and sciences PhDs. I emailed them about whether there was any intention of restarting the programs and they never replied. Toast in my books.
Reply With Quote

  #10  
Old 08-03-2008, 01:49 PM
mystique9999 mystique9999 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 10
Talking

Quote:
Disgruntled student? Oppositional university? There's no telling who is behind the blog and what their intentions are.

I'm not supporting PU by any means, but I'm sure you could find plenty of folks who were satisfied with their experience.
It doesn't seem that the blogger is a disgruntled ex-student although he/she does express that he/she visited the school as a prospective student:

I visited it after completing my O-Levels & was impressed by its initial offering of programs (I was interested in the BSIT program) and requested my mother to enrol me; My mom refused outright......She said I had to do my A-Levels first.

And the blogger has basically compiled his/her research from electronic sources and has referenced them appropriately.

I was looking into this matter and found the following at http://www.jamiahamdard.edu/Off-Shore%20Campus.asp:

Jamia Hamdard has recently established an Off-Shore Campus at Preston University Ajman in the United Arab Emirates. This is consistent with the expansion program of Jamia Hamdard and furthers its goal of providing quality education in today’s global environment. The degree programs offered are Business Administration, Information Technology, and Islamic Studies.

An American University is now turning into an Indian University :P
Reply With Quote

Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump



All times are GMT. The time now is 12:47 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.