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Old 04-10-2007, 03:34 AM
cheer37 cheer37 is offline
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Question Ansted University ?

Has anyone heard about ANSTED UNIVERSITY? Their website is http://www.ansteduniversity.org

It seem like bogus university operate from Malaysia! We couldn't find their contact elsewhere except at:

Office Address in Malaysia:

No.6, Lorong Nagasari 3,
Taman Nagasari Industrial Park,
13600 Penang.
Malaysia.
Fax/Tel: +6-04-399 3739 or +6-012-470 5688

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Old 04-10-2007, 07:03 PM
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I am not sure they are bogus but there are certainly not accredited. Here this there information directly from their website regarding accreditation.

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The Ansted University is authorized and endorsed by the governmental authority in the country of incorporation as well as by the local authority in different countries. AU is also internally accredited which means that the Board of Directors, Board of Governors and Board of Academic holds the responsibility of developing, maintaining, and enforcing its own high quality of standards for prior learning and experiential evaluation-based degree programs.

The Ansted University is not accredited by any of the regional accrediting organizations in the United States, United Kingdom, Europe, Canada, Asia, Australia and Africa. Accreditation is a voluntary process and is not a requirement by the department of education to grant degrees. AU has not applied for any such accreditation since it has no need to seek Government Funding. As we know, many private and non-governmental agencies have started accreditation activities, and some of them do not even meet certain standards. By whom Universities need to be accredited and finally, who accredits these accrediting agencies?

Despite all these, the AU has made arrangement with many recognized universities, institutions, and other community colleges for reciprocal recognition in many countries including USA, UK, Poland, France, Ireland, Spain, Italy, Canada, Belgium, Sweden, Switzerland, Asia, South-Asia, Latin America, Africa, etc. The AU graduates can transfer credits to those universities and institutions which has established agreement. AU graduates may also, continue their higher studies in case these students want to join other universities

They do proclaim to require credit to be taken at their institution to earn a degree. See more information here:

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They may be a legitimate university but I would still be cautious and investigate them further.
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Old 04-11-2007, 12:40 AM
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Default Maybe / maybe not a mill, but probably a waste of money...

Hi -

There may be a Malaysian office but the thing is a creature of the British Virgin Islands, apparently. At least they're up-front about not having accreditation in any one of a dozen countries. They'll give up to 30 transfer/experience credits for an Associate's and 90 for a Bachelor's. Transfer credits, OK - but this is 'WAY too much for experiential credits...

In N. America, (and many other places) an Ansted degree would have the limited utility for employment that any unaccredited degree has. I'm sure that for the same money, there are paths to accredited degrees that would be incredibly more useful if you need a degree to get a job.

I'm curious- all those "Professor Dr." people with the stupendous academic hats on Ansted's faculty --- WHERE did any of them get their doctorates? They don't say. I'm bettin' most were probably conferred at Ansted or another unaccredited school -- or they'd SAY if otherwise. Ansted doesn't appear to teach. According to their web-site, in the courses you don't get immediate transfer or experiential credit for, they give you a book-list, let you learn on your own and come back when you know something. Doesn't sound like instruction I'd be willing to pay much for...

Much of the English in their ad, while grammatically correct (well, almost so, much of the time, anyway) sounds strange and very non-native, as if it were written by very bright ESL students making a valiant stab at eloquence - ESL students with maybe a semester or two still to go... A University website in any language should use impeccable linguistics, to be fluent, idiomatic and correct in the chosen language. This one falls short and that's unforgivable.

With the suspect hats, doctorates of unknown origin, the strange blurb, over-generous experiential credits, lack of accreditation and the accessibility of REAL degrees for the same price (but likely much more work) ---well, there are six reasons I can find to go somewhere other than Ansted!

BUT - do as YOU WANT, not as I SAY. If you feel Ansted has what YOU want, (unaccredited quickie) then go for it - it's your money! Funny - I wasn't able to find them on the Oregon list - but they've GOTTA be on somebody's!!

Johann

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Old 04-11-2007, 01:19 AM
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Default Whoa! This just in... what a HOOT!

It seems Ansted is in the habit of passing out honorary degrees and titles to people connected with REAL (accredited) universities - Google tells me Dr. Dana Barry of Clarkson University (Middle States Accredited) has been appointed president of Ansted's scientific board - by no less than BARON PROFESSOR DR. SIR Roger Haw of Ansted! My B.S. radar's on full alert, when people sport advanced degrees (often of undisclosed origin) together with far-fetched TITLES as well!

Another example - "H.E. Nobless Dame Commandeur Joy Beaudette Cripps," of Ansted conferred an honorary degree on Prof. M.N.S. Swamy of (legit) Concordia University (Canada).

Also, a Texas A&M professor, Dr. Kenneth E. Paprock received an honorary degree from the Malaysian branch of Ansted.

What's gonna happen when these respected schools, Texas A&M, Concordia and Clarkson realize the totally unaccredited caliber of the place (Ansted) that's been passing out honours to their faculty members?

If these people at Ansted have one more fanciful hat or imaginative title of nobility....

Johann

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Old 04-11-2007, 01:35 AM
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Default I revise my opinion - yeah, it's a KNOWN mill!

Hi -

Oh wow! Look at Ansted, featured in the presentation "Around the World in 10 DEGREE MILLS!"

http://www.naric.org.uk/conference/p...ng%20Fraud.ppt

Gotta be one of the Biggest and Baddest!


GOODBYE ANSTED! No more research needed!

Johann

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Old 04-11-2007, 01:37 AM
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Johann, "If these people at Ansted University had one more silly hat or imaginative title of nobility, they could be dangerous!"

BARON PROFESSOR DR. SIR Roger Haw ?

Did anyone know where this Roger Haw earn his "Dr."?
Did anyone know who conferred him the "Baron" and "Sir"?
Did anyone know which university appoint him "Professor"?

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Old 04-11-2007, 01:45 AM
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Default Who cares!

There are almost as many places to get a fake title (e.g. Knight of the Eparchy of Nebraska) as there are to get a fake degree.

Sometimes it's the same outfit. - like a Sri Lankan school, the Open International University for Complementary Medicine, that admits for years the founder and his gang sold Ph.D degrees AND noble titles, for anmywhere from $400 to $850 U.S.

All these "bought" degrees and titles are fake! I remember one bogus outfit that would add an "Albert Schweitzer prize" to your bought doctorate for an additional $400!

Lots of Professor Dr. Sirs in charge of a lot of bogus schools - many should be Lords of the Cell Block, i.m.o.! I name no names, but I know most of 'em!


Johann

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Old 04-11-2007, 03:26 AM
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Do you know that the so-called BARON PROFESSOR DR. SIR Roger is a former insurance salesman. Now he earn his living by selling degree.

He operate his diploma mill at:

No.6, Lorong Nagasari 3,
Taman Nagasari Industrial Park,
13600 Penang.
Malaysia.
Fax/Tel: +6-04-399 3739 or +6-012-470 5688

Ansted University was black listed by the Malaysian Ministry of Higher Education (http://www.mohe.gov.my/default_eng.php?&lang=ENG).

Now he keep low profile in Malaysia but actively in overseas.

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Old 04-11-2007, 05:34 PM
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Do you know that the so-called BARON PROFESSOR DR. SIR Roger is a former insurance salesman. Now he earn his living by selling degree.

He operate his diploma mill at:

No.6, Lorong Nagasari 3,
Taman Nagasari Industrial Park,
13600 Penang.
Malaysia.
Fax/Tel: +6-04-399 3739 or +6-012-470 5688

Ansted University was black listed by the Malaysian Ministry of Higher Education (http://www.mohe.gov.my/default_eng.php?&lang=ENG).

Now he keep low profile in Malaysia but actively in overseas.
Why Malaysian Ministry of Higher Education did not take action to close down this diploma mill?

Previously we also discussed about Akamai University which operates in Malaysia? Are they both connected to each other?

Besides Ansted University, are there any other diploma mill that operate in Malaysia?

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Old 04-11-2007, 08:07 PM
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Default Not much for them to close, Alex!

Hi Alex -

I'm sure the Malaysian authorities do their best, but I don't imagine there's much for them to close. Probably not more than a movable mail-drop at the Malaysian location. I'm not positive, but I don't think there's a connection between Akamai and Ansted - although, as you say, both have tried drumming up business in Malaysia.

Mills are kinda like cockroaches. Once they get into a place, they're hard to get out. The Malaysian Government has my sympathy. I think the higher ed. system in the country is excellent -- I've seen examples of absolutely world-class work by graduating students in Malaysian universities.

I seem to remember from our discussion on SPUNI (Southern Pacific) that it was, or had been, active in Malaysia also. Too bad the principal villains in charge of all these mills are offshore. I'm sure time spent in a Malaysian jail would be a more effective learning experience for them than another fake doctorate!

I spent some time on the well-written Malaysian Ministry of Higher Education site that Cheer37 linked us to. It was very informative. Although I wasn't able to find a "mill" or "bad school" list, it DID list ALL properly authorized colleges and universities (by type). My advice to prospective students of schools located in Malaysia would be: if it ISN'T on your Ministry's approved list, then DON'T SIGN UP!

Cheer37 - Thanks for the link to your country's excellent higher education system and the alert re: another bad school to avoid - Ansted.

Johann

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